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for 25 February 2000. Updated every WEEKDAY.
 
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Hit & Run

These people are out of their
minds... looked up their web
site, and it's amazing how
ridiculous they really are.
You want to be concerned for
Israel? Great - I mean, G-d
only knows there's plenty to
be concerned about. But to go
on at lengths about "the
leftist this" and "the
leftist that", please... give
it a rest. Their twisted,
sick revisionist history that
they spew, particularly in
regards to the way
African-Americans have been
treated in this country, is
revolting, not to mention
idiotic. I wouldn't say
Martin Luther King ranks up
there with Jesus H. Christ
himself, but MLK was pretty
cool, in his own right! I
can't say as I have a problem
with a holiday for him. And,
in case these fools can't
figure out why there's a
black history month, wake up.
Every facet, every nugget of
detail about Western culture,
myth and society revolves
around white people!
Personally, I'd rather learn
something different for a
change, and learn how other
peoples have done and
continue to do things. As far
as John Rocker is concerned,
I don't think he should have
necessarily been punished the
way he was, but at the same
time this guy is a brain-dead
meatball who is hopelessly
lost and pathetic in his
beliefs. And JTF thinks this
is a good thing? JTF is no
better than Hitler, Idi Amin,
the KKK, or any one of the
countless groups of
individuals who, for whatever
sick, insensitive and
insecure reasons, choose to
lash out at others instead of
applying their energies
towards constructive
solutions. May God be with
these misguided losers,
because I assure you he's not
with them now.

Gary Shust
<shustg@oceusa.com>

You tell 'em, Gary!

yr pal,

tim
 
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I was just reading today's
piece with that
religious/philosophical
fanatic and halfway through
came up with a solution I'd
like to propose...why doesn't
Clinton use this supposed
budget surplus to BUY Cuba
from Castro, we offer
immediate citizenship to all
cubans who voluntarily
migrate to any state still
flying the confederate flag,
and then ship the entire
state o' Israel (we'll have
Disney recreate the sacred
temple - and even better, you
know it!), essentially
killing several birds with
one albeit ridiculously
expensive, stone.

It's better than just giving
the money away to corrupt
politicians oversees, being a
flag waving, tax avoiding
patriot myself, there's one
thing that pisses me off
everytime and that's hearing
how are hard earned tax
dollars finacne corruption
overseas - I saw we work now
to keep America's corrupted
greenbacks at home.

Thank you.

Todd Mentch
<tmentch@rpa.com>

As anybody who has been to
the Middle East can tell you,
Disney is infinitely better
equipped to do justice to the
bible than the distressingly
small actual biblical
locations are. For sheer
failure to live up to the
hype, no Lucasfilm could top
the biblical lands: The
pond-sized "sea" of Galilee,
the puniness of Damascus, the
Cedars of Lebanon's sparse
shrubbery. That's the great
pain of being an American:
The actual monuments of
history you see outside the
US always seem shrunken and
laughable to people raised in
the continent-spanning
vastness of our bounteous
homeland.

yr pal,

tim
 
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Subject: Umm, who gives a
damn about the JTF?

That was not funny, not
clever, and definitely
repulsive. JTF needs no
relay.

Bob Jacobson
<bluefire@well.com>

My editorial policy is to be
clever when I can't be funny,
and repulsive when I can't be
clever, and I make no
apologies for it.

yr pal,

tim
 
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Regarding your interview with
Chaim et al about Martin
Luther King, blacks and Jews,
I can only assume (after
checking the calendar to
ensure it was not yet April
1st) you have developed a
case of SPAM envy with so
many other sites being closed
down by hackers, that you
have tried to find the one
story which would by itself
generate enough emails to
accomplish the same thing.
Congratulations! You may have
found it.

Brady Westwater
<wwmalibu@aol.com>

Good to hear from you again,
Brady. Sadly, even with
provocative material like
this on the site, the email
response was the usual
trickle, ranging as always
from hostile to indifferent.

yr pal,

tim
 
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exists there an e-mail
address by which a
bleeding-heart liberal such
as I might get in touch with
Mr. Pesach and inform him
that the smoking of crack
remains illegal in our
country?

<Lawnchair@aol.com>

According to Whois, Vancier's
address is mishmaat@AOL.COM,
but I had no luck with that
address, and had to go
through much hoopla to get
him to talk. All for naught,
as it turned out.

yr pal,

tim
 
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need suck stuff. now.
pleeeeeeeaaase?

suckette
Elizabeth Stapleton
<estapleton@mediaone.net>

We're working on it,
Elizabeth. Believe me, we're
not trying to create a fake
demand spike. But I should
remind you that Ty Inc. has
announced plans to retire
several of its most popular
lines, so as soon as we have
Suck products back in stock,
don't hesitate to buy! The
collectibility value is
practically infinite!

yr pal,

tim
 
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Hit & Run

So, what else is new?

Sincerely,

Marshall
<HPlinth@aol.com>

Well, the JTF has changed the
set for its television show.
It used to be just Chaim
alone at a lectern, with a
flag of Israel on one side
and a portraite of Rabbi
Kahane on the other. Now they
sit down around a table and
discuss. Of such small
details do the peoples of the
earth learn to study peace.

yr pal,

tim
 
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Please tell me you were
hacked and you aren't really
responsible for this. The JTF
is a tiny, marginal fanatical
extremist organization whose
views on Israel, Judaism,
politics and social issues
are wildly out of line with
mainstream Orthodox Judaism,
and in fact contradict many
principles of true
Torah-observant Judaism. (I
am chasidic.) You shold be
embarrassed that such trash
appears under your name.

Aryeh Zev
<aryehzev@yahoo.com>,

I think being out of line
with mainstream Orthodox
Judaism is kind of the JTF's
whole point. But for the
well-balanced reader,
occasional exposure to
singleminded firebrands
clears the mind and braces
the spirit like a nice
wintertime swim.

yr pal,

tim
 
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The interview with Chaim Ben
Pesach was definitely the
scariest interview I've read
on your site. Thanks for
running it, and thanks for
following it with a list of
puns... great
juxtaposition...

Paranoid

As the interviewer, I can
assure you that Jedediah
Purdy was much scarier. I
thought he was gonna fly
across the table and kick my
ass the whole time!

yr pal,

tim
 
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Dear Sucksters:

Running a piece like the JTF
article in today's (2/10) Hit
& Run with hardly any
editorial comment, positive
or negative, pretty much
constitutes free advertising.
Nobody, I'm sure including
yourselves, really knows what
you *should* be doing, but
providing free advertising
definitely falls in the
*shouldn't* category. Have an
opinion, damn it, or don't
give up the column inches.

pat
<pmw@cc.gatech.edu>

I think editorial comment
would have been superfluous,
like the editorial comment in
"The Hate That Hate
Produced," the 1959 Mike
Wallace special that put the
Nation of Islam on the
national map. Chaim Ben
Pesach is that rare bird who
can be presented without
interpretation, in the full
faith that Suck readers will
always take the most
reasonable position. Or the
path of least resistance,
which is probably the same
thing.

yr pal,

tim
 
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Dear Suck,

Oy vey...I'm goin' back to
bed.

p.s. When you decide to make
more Suck merchandise, maybe
you could print that whole
friggin' interview on a
sweatshirt so that we
brown-nosed white people
could wear them and get the
shit kicked out of us as
seems to be so eminently
deserved by some.

Yr pal,

Kell
<kthorne@uswest.net>

In fairness to our interview
subject, at least one of his
phrases - "A nation of Woody
Allens" - is one that I would
happily approve on any and
all Suck merchandise.

yr pal,

tim
 
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Dear Sucksters,

In general I admit that I
tend to sequester myself in a
relatively liberal bubble,
unaware of any extreme right,
but as a loyal suck reader I
was blown away this morning
when I came into work and
checked out you site as usual
and found the interview with
Chaim Ben Pasach. At first, I
thought it was a joke, but as
I continued reading I decided
even you guys couldn't make
that up. Rarely am I ashamed
to be Jewish but the words of
this fanatical nut are
positively infuriating. Given
the historical attempts to
extinguish the Jewish race I
cannot comprehend how could
any Jew, ever, could possess
such bigoted, Nazi-esque
views. How can he not see his
hypocricy? Of course such
extreme and ridiculous
opinions can't stand up under
close scrutiny (he says he
can never reconcile with a
group that kills babies and
basically espouses genocide,
yet when asked who he sides
with concerning the war in
Chechnya, he says "neither
one, I hope they both kill
each other". Come on.

And talking about media, has
he ever turned on the t.v. or
picked up a newspaper?
"Jew-hating Arab-loving
media"? Uh, where?...), and
will never get the kind of
support on a mass scale that
he is looking for. Though
maybe they said that about
Hitler too. I'm sure you will
get a flood of mail
concerning this interview,
but I couldn't resist.

Thanks for the interesting,
if painful, piece.

Emily Fasten
<emfasten@hotmail.com>

First of all, you should
never be ashamed to be
Jewish. I don't feel any
shame about Pat Buchanan,
even though we're both Irish
Cathoholics who managed to
avoid serving in Vietnam.

Second, Chaim Ben Pesach's
views are less interesting in
themselves than the obsessive
articulateness with which he
expresses them.

As for his extreme opinions
never getting wide support:
It's worth noting that, in
the early 90s at least, Chaim
Ben Pesach's tv show achieved
ratings into the hundreds of
thousands in New York - not
bad in the most coveted TV
market on the planet. I
suspect that dropped off
substantially after the
assassination of Rabin - a
rare example of not being
careful what you wish for
(and Ben Pesach wished for it
endlessly back in the day).
But he's definitely not alone
in his beliefs. Whether
that's cause for concern I
don't know, but by presenting
him to the world, I'm just
doing my job.

yr pal,

tim
 
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 The Shit
Fully Committed, Becky Mode, the Cherry Lane Theater, New York, New York
Paris in the Twentieth Century, Jules Verne, Del Rey, 1997
Chow Yun Fat's haircut in Anna and the King
A Comment on Mini-skirts, Thornton Dial
"Leonardo's Grave," Ian Jacks, Granta #67
The Long Swift Sword of Siegfried, directed by Adrian Hoven, 1971
The annual reappearance of cheap clementines in bodegas
The New Meaning of Treason, Rebecca West, Penguin Books, 1985
Five-Card Nancy (a card game played with individual panels of Ernie Bushmiller's comic strip)
The Birthday Party Live 1981-82, Four A.D., 1999
Black Sessions 10/22/98, Belle & Sebastian , (unreleased)
San Lorenzo's Blues, Nuzzle, Troubleman Unlimited, 1999
The Story of Time, exhibition in the National Maritime Museum, Greenwich, England
Back of the Big House: The Architecture of Plantation Slavery, John Michael Vlach, University of North Carolina Press, 1993

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