The Fish
for 8 March 2000. Updated every WEEKDAY.
 
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White Men in Hammerstein
Ballroom


Robert Anton Wilson is
neither Jewish, nor is he in
any way associated with the
borscht-belt. Futhermore, it
is advisible to keep quiet on
such issues, as nasty things
(ie, the slow removal of the
pineal gland) happen to
people who say too much about
the Bavarian Illuminati.

Malaclypse the Tertiary

We're hiring people to do our
trembling for us right now.
As for the religious issue,
Wilson noted that, and we
quote, "I used to be an
atheist, but I had to give it
up — I realized I didn't
have anything to say during a
blowjob." It appears his new
deity is Jackie Mason.

You don't have to be Jewish
to love Lender's,

the C. of U.
 
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What a petulant little
article on the recent Disinfo
Con in NYC! \ Not enough
women and blacks?!? Do
observations come more phony
and facile? Richard Metzger
had a lot of weird shit
happening at Disnfo Con but
least it got beyond idea
number two. That's more than
can be said about the writer
of this article, who
apparently was looking for
the Democratic convention or
something similar to hold
hands, sing "Kumbaya" and
hope for a better America.
Kudos to Metzger for defying
the false dialogue of the PC
psuedo-left and presenting
some straightforward chaos.

Kenn Thomas
Conspiracy Theory Panel
moderator Publisher,
Steamshovel Press
POB 23715
St. Louis, MO 63121

Like Homer Simpson almost
said, it's facile 'cause it's
true, dude.

And while we're probably
almost as allergic to
"Kumbaya" as you are, we
could've done without quite
so many choruses of "We Are
The World."

Thanks for writing.

The C. of U.
 
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Many and varied are the
questions and lines of
inquiry your wonderful piece
creates. Where, for example,
IS Pigasus? Dead of old age?
Bacon? Playing in the muddy
fields? Or in the fields of
heaven? What is it about a
certain kind of semiloony
that makes them grab random
pieces of science and try to
make them into grand
conspiracies? How do these
loonies differ from PhDs in
literature who also try to
use random bits of science to
overexplain the times?
(Somebody actually DID just
write an entire book about
that one.). When did creating
art merge with creating buzz
to create mud? If the
revolution is really
televised will anyone come to
it or will everyone just stay
home to watch it? As I said,
many and varied. Wonderful
piece. Thanks.

Alan S Kornheiser
<ASKornheiser@prodigy.net>

Thanks for your kind words. I
believe Pigasus has had a
steady gig with Pink Floyd
for a while, and spends the
off-season wallowing in the
art/buzz mud.

the C. of U.
 
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Thanks for the report on how
the post-counter culture is
living. I've long thought
that the swap meet
represented the cultural
heart of America, and what
you're describing sounds so
much like a hip variation on
the noble institution.
Admittedly, it's one
high-toned, pretentious,
gaudy, ruinously expensive
swap meet. Here's the
home-made conspiracy tapes,
there's the discounted '60s
anarchist books and
remaindered Vertigo comic
books by Grant Morrison. But
what use is a swap meet
without cheap goods? It's
smugly satisfying to think
one could just continue with
life as always — staying
home, drinking wine,
listening to records, reading
— and be as close to the
"cutting edge" as those
birds.

Sincerely,

Richard Von Busack
<regisgoat@earthlink.net>

Heck, why stop there? Go out
and get a Fortune 500 job,
and you could be even closer,
as far as they're concerned!

Thanks for your kind words.

The C. of U.
 
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A Tale of Two Cities

For some reason, I find it
especially ironic that e-Citi
and "The City of E" seem to
have been both outlived and,
um, outpopulated by the
original "Internet City".
That being, of course,
Megadeth, Arizona, which has
to have set some sort of
record at this point for
longevity.

Nathan J. Mehl
<memory@blank.org>

We always thought Megadeth
was a hair band.

Ill-informed,

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Subject: I need filler
t-shirts


I can't believe they're sold
out! As long as you're
reprinting them can you ad
some color this time?

Rev. Samuel
<rev.sam@auragen.com>

Yeah, let's see how serious
you are about needing that
shirt.

We've got a Filler t-shirt
right hear for you. I will
send it to you, postage paid,
if you do the following:

Paste one sentence from the
final page of every Filler
ever written, along with the
URL of that page, into an
email, and send it to me.

For example, Filler 2.3.99 has
five pages. The URL for that
issue's LAST PAGE is

https://www.thesuck.net/daily/
99/02/03/nc_index5.html


One sample sentence from
that last page is

"But now it's time to trade
stories and name names."

So you would put the
following into your message:

https://www.thesuck.net/daily
/99/02/03/nc_index5.html

But now it's time to trade
stories and name names.

Do this for every Filler,
beginning with the May 1, 1996
issue. Selections must be in
chronological order, beginning
with 5.1.96 and continuing
through the most recent
Wednesday. All URLs and text
selections must be contained in
a single email. Do not send
any images.

I will check your work, so
don't cheat.

If you can do this, I'll be more
than happy to send you a shirt.

yr pal,

Bartel

A note to our readers: Rev.
Samuel did complete the above
assignment. His work
contained four errors, two of
which indicated that he had
used the expedient of typing
last-page URLs into his
browser, rather than clicking
through each Filler, page by
page. For this reason, Bartel
was reluctant to award Rev.
Samuel a Filler shirt.
However, taking into account
that four errors over four
years' worth of Filler is not
excessive for a first-time
assignment and that Rev.
Samuel had experienced
browser-overload problems
that made it difficult to
complete the assignment
— and with a special
one- time- only intercession
by Polly Esther herself
— we decided to relent.
Rev. Samuel received his
shirt this week and is quite
happy with it.

We now have three large-sized
Filler t-shirts, along with
assorted Suck stuff, to give
away.

These t-shirts will go to the
first three people who can
complete the same assignment
Rev. Samuel completed. Send
us
the URL and a line of text
from the last page of every
Filler ever written. Work
will be checked, and this
time no errors will be
allowed.

Bartel d'Arcy will also give
away assorted Suck goodies
during his appearance at the
University of Southern
California's Online
Journalism Conference on
Wednesday, March 15. To
receive these goodies, attend
the conference at USC's
Annenberg School for
Communication, and during the
panel discussion
"Conglomeration of the
Internet: Survival of the
Fittest" (3:45-4:45 p.m.
PST), rise from your seat and
declare in a stentorian voice
audible throughout the room:
"If loving Suck.com is a
crime, I'm guilty!"This show
of devotion will earn you not
only some valuable Suck
merchandise
, but lifetime
membership in the Suck High
Flyers Club.
 
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70,000 Sucksters Can't Be
Wrong


I enjoyed your story. Here's
a question that's been
bothering me:

why does it seem like
screenwriters have a lot of
difficulty with endings?

Mary Jo
<maryjo.aparicio@worldnet.att.net>

Gosh, Mary Jo, I liked the
ending of "70,000 Sucksters
Can't Be Wrong!" However, I'm
hoping you meant the general
state of movies, to which I'd
say there are a number of
reasons movies don't end
well.

1) The first is that writers
in general don't have control
of a movie. Directors,
executives, producers, and
actors usually have more say
in the process than those who
write (except on TV, where
nobody seems to mind the
endings so much).

2) Another industry bad habit
is the use of audience test
screenings in which audience
members, for any number of
reasons, might walk out of
the movie unhappy. These
screenings are valuable to
see how people react to a
movie, but when people don't
like the movie they complain
about the last thing they
remember, the ending, and the
classic response by studios
is to reshoot the ending to
"fix" the movie. It could be
that the beginning sets
things up in the wrong way or
a scene in the middle needs
to be cut or a new one
written. It's Billy Wilder
who says when your third act
is in trouble it's because
your first is in trouble.

3) Some writers are inept.

Bert
 
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Mr. Brecht,

I don't think these Neilsons
people ever come to New York
City. Supposedly, NYC is one
of TV's most coveted markets,
but I've never been
approached, and neither has
anyone I know, and I know
lots of nuclear families in
the 5 boroughs. When I was 9
or 10, my father's family (in
central Connecticut) had a
Neilson's book, where they
noted everything they watched
and mailed it in after 6
weeks. How I wished I could
get my hands on it!

Those guys know better.

Yrs,
Colin
the Little boy
from the Big Apple
<crankine@sensenet.com>

Well, Colin, New Yorkers are
no doubt the smart "urban"
viewers the Neilsen people
told me about who refuse the
AC Neilsen Co. box on the
grounds that it's probably a
scam. And it is, but on a
much larger basis than just
conning you into TV needless
repairs.

Then again, smarty New
Yorkers have so many great
entertainment choices that
compete with TV —the
never ending Broadway run of
CATS, sold out Central Park
concerts with Garth Brooks
and Billy Joel, Don "The
I-Man!" Imus every morning
—the Neilsen's must know
you're just not a TV town.

Bert
 
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Subject: rating x

Ben-

I read your article with
great interest, as I was
recently asked by Arbitron to
be a ratings "family" for
their February period. This,
even tho I am a
Suckster-reading media cynic
and, moreover, another
card-carrying member of the
Entertainment-Industrial
complex - a
features/entertainment editor
for a daily paper, online
editor for its Web edition
(pall-times.com) and a
freelance music reviewer.

As it turns out, that week I
only listened to Canadian
radio stations (I live in New
York state just across Lake
Ontario from the Great White
North) and public radio. I'm
sure such an aberration will
be forgotten as it drowns in
a sea of returns from people
who listened to stations that
play either a) britney
spears/'n sync, b) kid
rock/korn, c) shania
twain/dixie chicks or d) led
zepplin/doors ad nauseum will
continue to be "rewarded" in
the latest ratings book.

In exchange for this pleasure
and overwhelming $2 paycheck,
I took almost-daily calls
from Arbitron representatives
reminding me to send my book
in (including one call at
9:30 a.m. on Saturday). Each
one politely told me that "my
demographic" (males 21-35)
was the least reliable when
it came to returning the
books. Now that's class!

Glad to see I'm not the only
one who suffers from
performing such an "honorable
duty" in support of a radio
system swallowed up by
mergers, mediocrity and
mimicry.

Still liking to believe
(unrealistically) in the
freedom of music,

Tim Nekritz
<nekritz@dreamscape.com>

The spirit of Che and Mao
clearly resides in rebels
like us, Tim. Two men not
afraid to turn the dial on
principle and principle
alone. I think the deal I got
was $50 for the initial
set-up and then $12 every six
months, but they smoked me
out before I got the second
twelve.

Bert
 
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You mention Strangers with
Candy. Why not the Upright
Citizens Brigade? I was under
the impression Suck's one of
their pet projects. Oh yeah.
Right. It's just a TV show.

Peter Kilander
<peterk@enteract.com>

Sorry Pete, I don't tow the
line for anybody, not even my
corporate masters at Suck.
The last show Suck endorsed
heartily was "Bryant Gumbel's
Xtreme Newz," a morning show
in which Gumbel interviewed
celebs and newsmakers from a
glass-walled, street-level
Thai boxing dojo in Times
Square. Unfortunately, our
first guest for Bryant was Al
Sharpton, who couldn't match
Bryant's high kick. CBS said
they "liked the energy," but
didn't buy the show. Once
again, the masterminds in the
front office squash a great
idea.

Bert
 
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They asked me if I wanted to
do Arbitron in 91, I said
sure, but I wouldn't want to
skew your data, I don't have
a tv. I should have took the
money. Of course, I skew data
anyway, we used to get on all
three national channnels news
on King Day before it was
official and the year it was
finally official by getting
arrested at the missile silo
fields in North Dakota. Of
course we didn't make it all
three channels the year we
went a week early on Jan 8
and poured blood on a missile
silo (I-17 west of Larimore
NoDak). But we haven't done
anything like that since
1990. (We still do not know
why we were not prosecuted
the last two times). They
took the nukes out of that
field. I am in Canada now.
And so I do not pay any more
taxes for nuclear weapons
directly. Still trying to
skew the data. Shalom, Mark
Rogness

Mark Rogness
<paxmark@home.com>

P.S. I read Suck every M-F.

You live in Canada, Mark?
Just watch what we tell you
to watch and there won't be
any trouble, ok? As for your
protesting and waving signs
about, well, that kind of
revolution is good for
improving civil rights, human
rights, and effecting social
change that could make all
our lives and our children's
lives demonstrably better.
However, if you're really
going to make a difference,
you need to sit down, get
that TV on, and make some
hard choices — "Everyone
Loves Raymond" or "Dharma and
Greg?" Write us again when
you're really willing to make
a commitment, ok?

Bert
 
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I actually work for the AC
Nielsen Co. and the Suck
Daily on them really struck a
cord with me. Everything that
was said was the absolute
truth about them. Except the
point of how many homes you
actually represent. The
figure is closer to 4,000.

Nielsen does consider itself
to be the man, and I say
stick it to the man.

Scott

Excellent, Suck has a man on
the inside. Just for fun,
would you make Space Ghost
the #1 show in America for a
few weeks? Yes, you guys have
had a nice laugh on all of us
with Ally McBeal, but really,
enough's enough.

Bert
 
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 The Shit
Fully Committed, Becky Mode, the Cherry Lane Theater, New York, New York
Paris in the Twentieth Century, Jules Verne, Del Rey, 1997
Chow Yun Fat's haircut in Anna and the King
A Comment on Mini-skirts, Thornton Dial
"Leonardo's Grave," Ian Jacks, Granta #67
The Long Swift Sword of Siegfried, directed by Adrian Hoven, 1971
The annual reappearance of cheap clementines in bodegas
The New Meaning of Treason, Rebecca West, Penguin Books, 1985
Five-Card Nancy (a card game played with individual panels of Ernie Bushmiller's comic strip)
The Birthday Party Live 1981-82, Four A.D., 1999
Black Sessions 10/22/98, Belle & Sebastian , (unreleased)
San Lorenzo's Blues, Nuzzle, Troubleman Unlimited, 1999
The Story of Time, exhibition in the National Maritime Museum, Greenwich, England
Back of the Big House: The Architecture of Plantation Slavery, John Michael Vlach, University of North Carolina Press, 1993

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