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for 15 March 2000. Updated every WEEKDAY.
 
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Filler

Subject: The
Cast-Joe-District

Thank God you're finally
being up-front about Joe
being gay. I mean, that
*sweater*. I stopped wearing
Forenza in 1988, thanks.
(http://www.bc-trade.net/
buyers/_buy/00000761.htm).

You're pretty cool.

John Kusch
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

http://bluffmag.com/ jonjon
<jkusch@post.its.mcw.edu>

Yeah, but when you did wear
Forenza, I bet you wore the
sweatshirts that had the huge
letters across the front and
back, like those "Frankie
Say: Relax!" T-shirts.

Still wearing Hunters' Run
jeans,

Polly
 
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a little bird told me that
you live in LA...are you
gross?

Ryan Medlin
<RMedlin2@frk.com>

A little bird told me that
you piss in the shower.

Does that answer your
question?

Polly
 
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Letter of the Week

Subject: Pregnancy and Witch
Doctors

Hi I know a Marine at Camp
Pendleton and his wife. She
claims shes been pregnant
since Aug 22 1999. She claims
shes still pregnant and its
been 14 and 1/2 months
pregnant. In August she told
my wife that shes 9 months
pregnant. Then in September
she was asked she said she
was 9 and 1/2 months pregnant
that was the middle of
September. Then in October
she said she was 10 and 1/2
months pregnant The Military
hospital didnt want to take
the baby out because she
claims the baby was
premature. It wasnt born so
how does she know the baby is
premature? Well a normal
pregnancy is 9 months and no
later. Then she was asked
again. She said in November
she said she was 11 and 1/2
months pregnant. Camp
Pendleton Hospital OB told
her the baby was breeched
birth. She went to a witch
doctor to get the baby turned
around. Now its Almost March
and she claims shes still
pregnant. She says they are
inducing labor.

What do you think? Is it a
hoax or what?

John Ken Col

Oh, it's no hoax. She's
telling you the absolute
truth. You can be pregnant
indefinitely. We know a woman
who was pregnant for 10
years. You can imagine her
relief when she finally gave
birth to a 10-year-old a few
months ago!

How insensitive of you to
doubt this poor woman! You
are perhaps her only source
of comfort and support during
this very trying time. But
instead of lending her a
hand, here you are,
snickering behind her back!

Shame on you!

Sucksters
 
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Vengeful Press

Subject: That whacky
Cyber-southern dialect

Just in case none of your
astute Atlanta readers
bothered to let you know the
Atlanta Journal Constitution
this morning (3/10) ran a
story by one Jeffry Scott
(jlscott@ajc.com), staff
writer, under the banner of
Digital Living: Reports from
the E-World. This article was
titled "*@#!.com: Revenge
sites thrive on the Internet"
and is his expose of what he
calls the "sucks.com"
phenomena of pissed off
consumers taking their
whining to the web. What is
more he quotes a Mr. Richard
Hatch of walmartsucks.com as
describing himself as "the
guru of suck-dot-com" (note
the singular). Was this a
mere slip of the tongue? A
demonstration of how far the
name thesuck.net has penetrated
our subconscious? Or a crass
attempt to shift the credit
(and blame) for thesuck.net onto
his own shoulders? Only Mr.
Hatch knows for sure.

Paul McKay
Assistant Engineer
<jpmckay@papvis.ipst.edu>

So why are you telling us?
You should be telling the
Journal-Constitution. Write a
letter to the editor
mentioning Suck.com. If it
gets published send it to us
and you'll receive a Suck
t-shirt and other fine
paraphernalia. You might want
to point out that The
Original Suck.com offers a
level of sophistry and
merriment that is far above
the dummkopf disgruntlement
of Mr. Hatch and his
unauthorized title (and it is
unauthorized; since we
encourage all our readers to
think and act for themselves,
we would never award a title
of "guru" to anybody, let
alone Mr. Hatch). Write
whatever you please, but get
us a mention on their letters
page and you'll get stuff.
That's a real offer, fair and
true.

yr pal,

tim
 
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Lemon Squeezers

Subject: Dave Eggers
article...3-7

Dear mxyzptlk,

I used to read Suck daily, so
I know you just don't give a
fuck about what us dumb ass
readers have to say. Even so,
for it's worth, I stopped
reading your site for
precisely the same reason
Eggers give's in the voice.
It's like having someone yell
in your ear every day. Now I
read McSweeneys instead.

As a sassy n' sardonic 24
year old Oakland resident,
I'm pretty sure that I was
tuff enuff to handle Suck's
variety of smack, and I've
read enough of the dailies to
know you guys and gals get
off on whiny crit. letters
like this one.

None the less, one of the
reasons I was so in to Suck
in the first place was
because I started reading it
after Might folded, and I
thought you guys were a
worthy succesor to the throne
of media-aware cultural
commentator kings (or
something like that).

But whatever, you don't care
about your readers, and I
know that... I guess, for
once, I wanted to take the
bait.

Sincerely,

Scott Pactor
<scottpactor@yahoo.com>

YOU GOT US ALL WRONG,
SCOTTY-BOY! WE DON'T YELL,
WE SHOUT! AND WE DO CARE!
IN FACT, WE SHOUT NOT BECAUSE
WE DON'T LOVE OUR READERS
BUT BECAUSE, LIKE O.J. AND
JOHN LIST, WE CARE TOO MUCH.

CORDIALLY,

Mr. M
 
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Subject: Of Babies and
Bathwater and that Eggers
Character

I thought the
post-media-saturation
backlash against Eggers
wasn't due until July? It's
good to see Suck staying
ahead of the curve.

Backlash or no, Eggers writes
very well when taken in small
doses. I wouldn't read a
novel by S. J. Perelman
either, nor live on a diet of
marzipan. So?

As for McCain, he's a
glorious entertainment and I
go to sleep every night
secure in the knowledge that
the Jesus brigade will
nominate Bush, thereby
electing Gore. Congress will
remain an extravagantly
funded camp meeting, Gore
will veto them for the wrong
reasons, and the Republic
(like Suck) will stumble on
just as it always has. Either
that, or the nefarious Dr.
Clinton will declare the New
World Order and throw all the
paranoids in camps. At least
it would be a change.

If Eggers is anti-anti-ironic
and you're agin' it, that
would make me your anti-
anti- anti- anti-ironic
aquatic pal,

Fungo the Talking Shrimp

S.J. Perelman on marzipan?
Now there's the core of a
novel every bit as
fask-i-natin' as the old crap
of his the New Yorker has
been running once in a while
to celebrate the fact that
it's an old boring shit rag.
It just hasn't been the same
since Dick "LSD" Shawn
stopped editing under another
name.

Yrs,

Mr. M
 
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Thanks for pointing out what
Nietzsche abridged. What
doesn't kill you not only
makes you stronger, but
occasionally bumps you into a
higher tax bracket. And
really, why shouldn't misery
seek both company and high
returns? Self-help
publishers, beer makers, and
personal injury lawyers, to
name a few, have always made
a profit from human
suffering. Why shouldn't the
sufferer get a piece of the
action? If only there were an
established market rate. As
McCain's Republican contender
has proven, you can still
enjoy the spoils of life even
if the worst thing you have
ever had to face is a
hangover.

Clay
<clayn@dillonet.com>

In our equal opportunity age,
let's not forget Bush's
future antagonist, who had to
brave a regular David
Copperfield childhood:
Growing up in a D.C. hotel
with a senator-for-a-dad,
cushy Vietnam gig writing
Junior Jumbles for Stars &
Stripes,
then those tough
days leading hearings
featuring Frank Zappa and Dee
Snider, biding time until
what was rightfully his is
finally his.

Aloha,

Mr. M
 
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America loves tragedy. As
truly as nobody every got
broke underestimating
Americas taste, nobody ever
got broke underestimating
Americas appetite for
watching descents into the
abyss. People eat up the "I'm
such a tragic figure" schtick
for the same reason everyone
watched O.J.'s flight in the
White Blazer - they can't
wait to see someone blow
their brains out. It's a
competition thing - each one
of us knows just how fucked
up they are, and it is very
reassuring to see some other
poor schmuch who is really
messed up. Kind of the
Christian ideal of accepted
suffering in exchange for
eternal heaven, only we get
to enjoy the eternal every
night on the tube.

heavyC
<cameron@slip.net>

In fact, America loves
dramedy--as the countless
fans of The Days and Nights
of Molly Dodd,
The Slap
Maxwell Story,
and The West
Wing
attest. But other than
that, and your spelling of
schmuck, you're right as
reign.

Ta,

Mr. M
 
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Subject: I sing of Olaf,
brave and strong

Excellent. You have provided
a hook for my otherwise
totally unrelated riff about
John McCain. To wit:

1. The reporters traveling
with him report with
childlike pleasure that he
listens to their ideas and
says, with (plausible)
sincerity, that he hadn't
really thought about it like
that and would immediately
reconsider his positions. We
have published testimony to
that effect concerning a slew
of topics, of which medical
care is the one I remember
seeing most recently. This
charms the savage breasts of
said reporters, because
everyone likes to think
they're influencing policy
and the average reporter
likes to believe he's smarter
than the average pol. (Which
is one reason so many of them
have this gut-hatred of Gore
and Clinton; in their hearts,
they know the two guys are
policy wonks who really do
know more about this stuff
than they do.) All of this
evades the key point: McCain
is a US senator and has been
making POLICY on these topics
for a good 18 years. Why,
when he was being paid to
look into all this stuff, did
he never bother? How can he
be so ignorant on topics for
which he is paid to govern
that he can take advice from
whoever is sitting in the
seat next to him? I like
flexibility and learning from
experience as much as the
next guy, but surely the time
to learn your job is before
you are paid to do it, or
even while doing it, not
after you've stopped doing
it.

2. Mr McCain was shot down
and tortured in prison. He
courageously followed
appropriate military protocol
by refusing to be released
out of sequence, and was
tortured even more for it.
However, he did in fact break
under torture and make
(comically stilted) speeches
denouncing his own country.
He could legitimately been
court martialed and even
imprisoned for this. Common
sense prevailed, and he got a
pass...as well he should. He
was more brave than me, or
you, even if he reached his
limits. But dammit, by what
idiotic stretch does this
make him a hero? He stopped a
SAM with his jet, failed to
evade capture, failed to
escape, failed to fully
resist his captors, and was
only released when the war
ended. When he came back he
discovered his wife was no
longer the young sexy thing
he'd left behind (since tide
and time change all),
so--making up for lost time
and lost fantasies--he
screwed around and then
dumped her. While this
behavior is better than some
and no worse than that of
most aviators in the same
straits, by any objective
standards, the man is a
loser. Does he want my
sympathy? He can have it; he
had a rough war. But a hero?

Mind you, I find Mr McCain an
amusing and refreshing pol.
His willingness to, even
belatedly, discover that it
would be nice for a political
party to try to represent the
majority of the people of the
country is surely a Good
Thing. By running against Mr
Bush, he has enlightened and
enlivened the primary season.
Just don't ask me to take him
seriously.

Alan S Kornheiser

<ASKornheiser@prodigy.net>

As S.J. Perelman might have
put it, "Make mine marzipan."
And if there's no marzipan to
be had, then it might as well
be McCain.

Nuff said,

Mr. M
 
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Subject: Vietnam

It is cool to express
opinions about stuff that you
have some idea about, but the
Vietnam war is obviously
something you know nothing
about. At 23 years old I feel
like I am surrounded by the
biggest bunch of morons this
country has ever seen. Does
anyone there know anything
about what happened the
McCain? To make comments like
that about what he went
through is just stupid. Now I
am sure some old web veteran
who has been around since
TI's were the in thing, is
going to read this and say
"What the hell does this kid
know", well pull your head
out of your ass and think
about what you are talking
about before you say it. What
a bunch of dorks. Other than
that I love everything else.
Keep it up you militant bunch
of computer nerds.

Later

Steve Cobb
<steven.cobb@hostcommunications.com>

If you think you're
surrounded by morons at age
23, just wait until you get
to 24. And in fact, thanks to
Rambo and several very
special episodes of Hogan's
Heroes,
all America knows
what McCain went through.

Much later,

Mr. M
 
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 The Shit
Krushchev Remembers, by Nikita Krushchev (authorship disputed), translated by Strobe Talbott
Five-Star Day Cafe
Athens, Ga.
Salon's "Action Figures"
TV ad
Donna's Famous "Long and Short of It," by Donna Anderson and friends
Two-Lane Blacktop, directed by Monte Hellman (The Anchor Bay/Universal letterboxed edition)
George Bush, Dark Prince of Love: A Presidential Romance, by Lydia Millet (Scribner)
King Kong: The Complete 1933 Film Score, by Max Steiner Moscow Symphony Orchestra, William J. Stromberg conductor (Marco Polo)
Eightball #20, by Dan Clowes (Fantagraphics Books)
The ECW's Little Spike Dudley
Stan Kenton, City of Glass, featuring arrangements by legendary weirdo Bob Graettinger (EMD/Blue Note)
Comix 2000, Edited and published by L'Association, 2000
Star Dudes
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