The Fish
for 26 April 2000. Updated every WEEKDAY.
 
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Filler

Ms. Fashion Victim:

"Talks about shopping like
it's a challenge akin to
climbing Mount Everest,
featuring desperate,
terrifying setbacks and
exhilarating victories. "

Okay, that's me.

Ms. Drama Queen:

"..may seem like
unpredictable mood swings but
which are actually totally
understandable reactions to a
tumultuous and often quite
hostile world"

Yiiii (that's recognition
mingled with amused disgust)
That is sooo me.

But forget about just Women
To Avoid. What's amazing is
that I can relate to your
characters *so* much even
though I'm from a totally
different culture half way
around the world.

You never cease to entertain.
Thanks for hitting all the
issues right on the head and
with such wit, I laugh out
loud. Which is quite a feat,
believe me, plus, I read Suck
at work. Actually, I only
like Filler, the rest is too
winded and slightly preachy.

I looked around my "circle of
friends" and I can come up
with about 5 more Women To
Avoid, & in my case they'll
be Arab Women to Avoid,
although the reasons to avoid
them aren't because of their
"Arabness"; I am not a
sell-out. I don't want to
bore you so I won't describe
'em here, but email back
anytime if you need ideas
from my neck of the woods.

A reader in Saudi Arabia

Hiba Dialdin
<dialdiha@aramco.com.sa&>

Wow, thanks for writing! But
are you telling me Saudi
Arabian women are as
delightful as American women?

Yiiii!

Winded,

Polly
 
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Subject: Okay, so you're
cynical

but I love ya anyway!

I gotta ask: on the day
before my birthday, that is
March 29, your column had a
"next page" button beside the
heading "Bad head makes the
morning fabulous". Soon as I
saw it, I thought of Janie
Runaway on the new Steely Dan
album. Is this a correct
connection? If so, you have
great taste in music as well
as in other things...

Chuck Dupree
Palo Alto, CA

Shouldn't you have signed
that "How about a kiss for
your Cousin Dupree"?

Which fine Colombian do you
think Mr. Dan was talking
about? Pablo Escobar wasn't
fine, that's for sure.

Polly
 
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You guys have probably been
flooded with this tip already
since you ran tha asian mahir
thing, ya? no? anyway: The
only worthwhile so-called
homepage I have run across.
Rumor in NYC is that it's a
frustrated tonight show
writer's little hoax. Old
dude. Amatuer magician and
philosopher of sorts.
Hilarious. Think warner
brothers buying it is a
joke/hoax. Christ, at least I
hope so.

excerpt:

"Yesterday'S SAying:"WHenever
I get tired and lonely AND
life seems TOO HARD, I look
AT tHE BEAUTY OF a simple
flower. AND THEn I pull the
flower out of the Ground and
realize that I AM more
powerful than the FLOWER, and
to itt I seem like I'm fifty
million damn feet tall! Now I
DOn;t feel so tired! Now I
feel like a damn GODZILLA!"

Dan

When I want to feel powerful,
I play ant hospital. Injure
some ants, put them in
separate rooms of a little
ant hospital, create ant
emergencies. Nah, that's
gross. But I did that when I
was little. Only severely
mentally damaged children
would dream up a game like
that.

As for the website, who
knows? If acting like an evil
imbecile online gives you a
thrill, well...then we have a
lot in common.

Polly
 
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She Will Always Love Us

Courtney Love's 'Celebrity
Skin' better than anything
Kurt wrote? Please. This no
talent, wanna-be scenester
titty dancer should never
seen the spotlight. All she
knows how to do is glom onto
others more talented than
her, and schmooze and fuck
her way up another rung on
the ladder.

Hey Kurt, you missed!

Eric Lange

Thanks for providing more
grist for the mill of rabid
Courtney-hate. And hey, some
of my best friends are
titty-dancers.

Sincerely,

Eugen
 
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I knew you were trying to
make a point somewhere in
this article, but I kept
getting lost in the jungle of
pop culture references. I
tried snipping away all the
superfluous, hipster,
Andro-induced bulk and was
left with,

"We all have our own horror
stories of being poked,
prodded, delayed, and damaged
And that's something we too
often forget."

Absolutely brilliant in it's
Zen-like simplicity. You are
a writer with a rare empathy
for those struggling with
survival in today's
hyper-critical world. Thank
you.

Kevbones
<andersonk@ChurchHealthCenter.org>

And that was your first
mistake.

We all have our own horror
stories of being poked,
prodded, delayed, and damaged
And that's something we too
often forget.


That's the speedreading
version, yes. While that got
you where you were going
fast, I grant, you missed my
touching shout-out to Shirley
Hemphill. And I think the
loss is yours, sir.

Sincerely,

Eugen
 
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Excuse me-

I really liked your piece
about black women getting
short shrift by our society,
but I have a rather troubling
question:

Did "Jew" become a slur some
time when I wasn't looking?

I've always referred to
myself as a Jew, but never
with the slightly sardonic
attitude that other
minorities would use when
self-applying epithets; I
thought that's what we are
called. I've never understood
goyim who say things like
"Well, you're a Jewish
person," or "How do Jewish
people feel about..." I
dunno, the extra syllable
seems kind of stilted to me.

But if the word really is a
bad thing, I'm way behind the
power curve, and should stop
offending others of my ilk.
Please let me know if this is
the case, and when the
evolution occured.

Thanks,

Ben Malisow
<bmalisow@snap.org>

Somewhere along the line,
that simple factual statement
began being considered rude.
Or more precisely, the
pointing out (when not
definitely relevant) of
someone's being a Jew, or
Jewish, or whichever you
prefer, was thought of as
rude bordering on cranky,
with a suspicious whiff of
anti-Semitism. As someone
with a Jewish mother, I have
never found the term
problematic myself.

Best,

Eugen
 
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If your aim in writing
today's feature on Whitney
Houston was to be
simultaneously insulting as
well as ridiculous, you've
succeeded. It is insulting,
to both women and black
people everywhere, to
insinuate that Whitney is
being treated the way that
she is only because she's a
black female. That is what
one can very realistically be
labeled as horseshit,
particularly given the number
of white males who've gone
through the same media ringer
(Robert Downey, Jr., for
instance). The fact of the
matter is — and I can
assure you that my sources on
this are wholly accurate
— that Whitney has had a
problem drugs. You want to
hear about how she [libelous
details about hotel room stay
omitted by Suck editors]? Or
about all of the [libelous
details about botched
performances omitted by Suck
editors]? Or about all the
[more libelous details about
hotel rooms and drug use
omitted by Suck editors]?
(oh, did I forget to mention
Bobby's [libelous details
about drug use omitted by
Suck editors]?)

Point being: if you're going
to insinuate media causality,
you need to at least have the
full story before doing so.
Clearly you didn't with
Whitney and were basing your
assumptions, ironically
enough, solely on your
opinion of what you read in
the media.

Jeff Kirk
<jk@austin.rr.com>

Do you have to ask those
questions? Of course I do!
Bring it on, mystery-man-
with-connections- in-the-
hospitality- industry that
this reporter can't manage.

And yes, insulting and
ridiculous were effects I was
going after at various points
in that piece.

Best,

Eugen
 
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It was a great piece for most
of the way, and I agree with
the main premise, and it made
me laugh, so one gross error
is excusable. I had to bring
it up, though: you can claim
that Courtney Love made a
better album than Kurt ever
managed (although most people
would laugh like crazy at
that statement) since that's
a matter of pure opinion.
However, please don't tell us
that the "lunatic shrew"
label doesn't fit the
scheming
rocker/actress/whatever. Her
most recent call for
attention, if you don't
remember, was a pathetic
attack on Dave Grohl claiming
Kurt hated Dave and liked her
best and she wouldn't share
her fingerpaints at recess
anymore. I don't think I
really need to explain why
this qualifies her, do I?

Thanks for the good stuff,

Eric
<eric99@hawaii.rr.com>

Courtney was merely joining
into Grohl's already-launched
public attacks on her, since
Courtney-bashing is an
always-in-season American
sport. I still stand by her,
blindly.

For what it's worth, nearly
everyone who has written
today has done so to
straighten me out on the
Courtney Question. I remain
steadfast.

Best,

Eugen
 
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great work, even considering
Suck's consistently high
standards. quite relentless.

just one problem: how could a
smart person think Celebrity
Skin is better in any way
than even the weakest Nirvana
song? and you had so much
momentum going...

still, the rest of it tore
right along, went on some fun
tangents too.

cheers

John Mayer
<jmayer@mail.findlaw.com.criticalpath.net>

Thank you for your kind
words. Everyone is ripping me
on the Courtney stuff, but I
stand by my sources.

Best,

Eugen
 
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Hmm, I was really enjoying
your column about how unfair
the world is...that is, until
I read that fashion model
Courtney Love has recently
made a better album than her
husband ever did!
Astonishing! I'm really going
to have to reevaluate my
opinion of her, in much the
same manner as the Violent
Femmes
.

"Kurt's wife Courtney Love
accompanied him on the tour.
The Femmes thought she was a
skanky, pasty-faced,
pockmarked, drug-addled, no
talent slut and bimbo. But
they must have been wrong,
because now she is a ROLE
MODEL FOR AMERICAN
FEMININITY!!!!!!!!"

It's like, now, I can't even
listen to In Utero without
thinking, what if some cool
famous producer paid a poor
schmuck pennies to use Pro
Tools to edit out all the
off-pitch singing and amp
noise, and just make loops of
all the choruses. It would
have been such a better
album, because it would have
been slicker and more
commercially accessible. Then
they could bring in an army
of songwriters to really make
stuff you can hoist your beer
and shout to when you're
kicking it with your buds at
Chili's. This is the tactic
that made Madonna such a
musical powerhouse. Because,
I mean, let's face it,
"selling out" really isn't
selling out anymore, and if
you embrace your stardom and
wealth and learn to live well
and sing songs about it all,
you're really not considered
an irrelevant asshole like
you used to be in the days of
Puff Daddy, so we old
punk-rockers should just get
over our personal ideals and
join the rest of America.

I really want to thank you.
Because of your opinion, I am
growing as a person, and I
didn't even need Dianetics.

Yours in Christ,

The Pie Guy

Suggesting you commit
hara-kiri for your crimes
against wit, irony, and
musical taste would be too
obvious a joke, so I'm
frankly at a loss for words.
Courtney does bring out bad
reactions in the fanboys,
doesn't she? It staggers the
mind. Pro-tools or Albini's
spartan "no compression-no
surrender" aesthetic aside,
Celeb Skin is a better album
than In Utero....and I get
greater and greater pleasure
the more often I have to
repeat this ex cathedra
pronouncement....

Sternly,

Eugen
 
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 The Shit
Krushchev Remembers, by Nikita Krushchev (authorship disputed), translated by Strobe Talbott
Five-Star Day Cafe
Athens, Ga.
Salon's "Action Figures"
TV ad
Donna's Famous "Long and Short of It," by Donna Anderson and friends
Two-Lane Blacktop, directed by Monte Hellman (The Anchor Bay/Universal letterboxed edition)
George Bush, Dark Prince of Love: A Presidential Romance, by Lydia Millet (Scribner)
King Kong: The Complete 1933 Film Score, by Max Steiner Moscow Symphony Orchestra, William J. Stromberg conductor (Marco Polo)
Eightball #20, by Dan Clowes (Fantagraphics Books)
The ECW's Little Spike Dudley
Stan Kenton, City of Glass, featuring arrangements by legendary weirdo Bob Graettinger (EMD/Blue Note)
Comix 2000, Edited and published by L'Association, 2000
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