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Filler

God, that chart at the
beginning of Fillerversary
makes me want to put on my
old tuxedo, curl up in a
corner with the bong and Jack
Daniels, and blow my brains
out. You don't want to know
how many of those rows 'n'
columns I fit into. But
anyway, to answer your
question in the most general
sense: since I started
reading Filler, only three
years ago I'm afraid (but I
went back and read the
archives, honest), I've gone
from a promising hack to an
accomplished freelancer,
discovering that it IS in
fact possible to infinitely
subdivide and sell pieces of
my soul, forvever and ever
amen. Proof positive: I
recently penned a masterpiece
entitled "A Nasal Spray for
Tooth Decay?" Once you get
past the nice rhyme and
question mark, there's
nothing but crushed karma and
bitter powdered spirit, with
which I am pleased to mix the
vodka of Filler every week.
Goes down real nice. And if
you ever agree to sell the
movie rights, I'd like to
play the pig, in a cage, on
antibiotics. For scale.

Cheers.

Chris Mohney
<cmohney@mindspring.com>

Crushed karma and bitter
powdered spirit? Now that's
what you should be marketing.

Loving my cage,

Polly
 
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Dear Polly,

I have not been reading
Filler for its entire four
year run, but I have been
following your weekly madcap
antics for a good, long
stretch now (as I read it in
the morning, when I'm
stretching.) Anyway, I can
say that Filler has changed
my life. Before I discovered
your column, I was lonely and
bitter; hanging out in bars
alone searching the faces of
the merry makers (whilst
downing neat scotch) for the
person who could penetrate my
perpetual gloomy funk and
fill my day with joy and
sunshine and frolicking
doggies. Yet all the women I
ever found were cynical,
detached, ironic to the point
of utter obscurity and nearly
as bitter as myself. This led
to naught but brief,
unsatisfying, soul-mangling
encounters which set me back
on the same ugly cycle of
bitterness and neat scotch.
Since I started reading
Filler none of that has
changed, but now I call all
these women "Polly".

Thank you.

"It is not enough to succeed.
Others must fail."
-Gore Vidal

Phineas X. Jones
<animus@ais.net>

Ah, frolicking doggies. The
eternal dream. The underlying
theme.

Here's hoping you get some,
some day.

Er, some frolicking doggies,
of course. In the meantime,
stay away from the cynical,
detached women. They're
joyless, they burn easily,
and they rarely own doggies,
frolicking or otherwise.

Joyfully tanning,

Polly
 
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So many things HAVE changed:
I stopped breaking out My
metabolism changed so that
now I GAIN weight My kids no
longer think I'm cool My wife
no longer thinks I'm cool The
drug I was taking to speed up
my metabolism so that I could
lose weight made my heart
have an irregular heartbeat
My kids think I'm a fucking
idiot My wife thinks I'm a
fucking idiot

The country I live in
recently suffered an abuse of
power by it's chief executive
and his croney. I look
forward to the
totalitarianistic future
where my government makes all
the important decisions for
me, removes my unsightly
front door, rearranges my
house and removes any
unnecessary members of my
family FOR FREE!!

J. Hamhill

Hmm. Perhaps you are a
fucking idiot. Have you
considered this possibility?

Helpfully,

Polly
 
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Dear Polly,

When I first stumbled upon
this little corner of the
internet I was happily going
out with a great girl, and
working as an Internet
Development Manager at an
internet start up company.
Now, after a couple of years
of weekly Filler doses, my
life couldn't be better. I
quit the increasingly lame
internet start up and now I'm
a "new media designer" at an
even smaller company. I
design meaningful web sites
for small banks and shoe
companies. I dumped my
girlfriend of 3 years only to
start seeing some one else
I'm even less interested in.
Now, I'm madly in love with
the girl I dumped, but she
won't have anything to do
with me anymore (duh!). I
spend my days resisting the
urge to call her, drinking
myself into an unpleasant
stupor, and planning moves to
worlds major metropolitan
areas (where I would
instantly succeed and be
happy).

Thanks Filler! I look forward
to more.

Uncomfortably Numb
(please forgive this reference
to Pink Floyd. I am not a fan.)

P.S. This is a true story.

Ok, guys, listen up. Before
you dump your girlfriend
because you're bored and you
think maybe there are dozens
of exciting, fabulous women
out there waiting to get
their dexterous hands on you,
ask your friends if you're
with a real catch, who you're
lucky to be dating in the
first place. Chances are
you've got a total babe on
your hands and you don't even
know it because you're sort
of stupid.

I've met more regretful,
heartbroken men lately than I
care to mention. Particularly
since I'm the one who broke
all their hearts.
Bahawhawhaw!

Joking, badly,

Polly
 
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Subject: What's changed in
your life since you started
reading Filler?

I started smoking out of a
bong instead of rolling
joints.

Really.

Mike

Wow. I really am making a
difference in the world.

Feeling very important and
special,

Polly
 
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Dear Polly,

Filler has changed my life in
so many exciting ways. Since
I began reading it, I've
become trimmer and have lots
more energy. I smile often
these days. I met the love of
my life, and we are happily
married. I've begun to
experience male multiple
orgasms. I've enjoyed a
promotion and two raises at
work ...

... and it's all thanks to
Filler! Thanks Filler!

Regis Feldman

P.S. I also no longer dump in
my sleep.

Wow, I've really changed your
life, haven't I? How exactly
did I ameliorate that
shitting-the-bed thing? I
should probably know, just in
case I need to do the "How to
Discipline Your Children
Without Ritalin or Crystal
Meth" speaking circuit once
this gig is over.

Just don't, uh, stop
exercising while continuing
to read Filler. We don't want
to throw a control variable
into this experiment, or I
might lose some of that
undeserved credit. Which I so
clearly deserve.

Entitled to many things,
including multiple male
orgasms,

Polly
 
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Dear Polly,

So, I realize that
constructive insight isn't
necessarily what Filler is
all about, but I thought that
it still might be worth
writing to you. I really
enjoy Filler, as well as your
daily Suck columns, and I'm
wondering how you got to
where you are today. I'm 22,
still finishing my philosophy
BA - in short, I have no
marketable skills and little
hope of, or interest in,
developing any. Most or all
of the jobs that appeal to me
seem impossibly out of reach
- sexy, exciting New Media
jobs like yours. I mean, I've
never even been to the West
Coast. Am I totally screwed?
I think I have the talent and
ability to do something, I
might sometimes even have the
drive to do that something,
whatever something that
something may be, but I don't
know anybody doing anything
that might eventually turn
out to be that something, so,
it's like, y'know? I mean,
what do I do?

Awaiting inspiration,

Matthew Gearhart
<gearhart@mail.utexas.edu>

You are totally screwed.

Just kidding. Decide on two
or three jobs that you'd love
to do eventually. Read a lot
about those possibilities.
Move to the best city for
those things. Ask around.
Eventually, you'll figure out
how people get internships at
such places. Get an
internship. Before you talk
to anyone at the place you
want to work, though, develop
a very specific idea of what
you want to do. If you
approach and say, "Gee, what
a great place, I'll do
anything for you guys!" you
won't get a job. You need to
at least sound focused.
Sounding focused is really
90% of the battle, regardless
of whether you actually are
focused or not. The other 10%
of the battle is wiping the
sweat off your palms before
you shake hands with your
future employer.

Now you probably don't want
to do anything but eat
cookies in bed and weep
piteously. Perfectly natural.
Why not spend the day eating
cookies in bed and weeping,
and then vow to get up
tomorrow, get online, and
figure out what you might
actually be good at.

Just remember, no job is sexy
and exciting, least of all a
new media job. Sexy and
exciting is on TV. Just find
something that you won't find
utterly torturous, and use
that money to pay the cable
bill so you can get all the
sexy and exciting TV that you
deserve.

Also awaiting inspiration,

Polly
 
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since i started reading
filler i ended up at a dot
com.

is that your fault?

Christian Nutt
Gamers.com
Associate Producer :Dreamcast
<christian.nutt@gamers-inc.com>

Probably. Not quite as sexy
and exciting as you might
have hoped, eh? Not quite the
dizzyingly glamorous scene
you had hoped for, huh?

Sorry.

Slouching and squinting, in
socks,

Polly
 
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Hi Polly,

It's difficult to know
whether to congratulate or
commiserate with you. I very
nearly fitted with the table
on the opening page, but it
really is much worse. When i
started reading suck i was a
post-grad working on a
dissertation, now i'm a
post-grad finishing a thesis
on something else that's not
a lot different from the
dissertation. Ugh.

I promise to finish this
year, but i also promise not
to stop reading Filler. Or
have the two been connected
for the last few years? In
which case i promise to stop
reading Filler and will get
back to you in the new year.

Gary
(Apparently, the only
person in the world to
actually walk into the Suck
offices and ask to buy a
T-shirt. Nice dog by the
way.)
<godard@hotmail.com>

Ooo. Sorry Gary. When you
stopped by the Suck offices,
you left your book bag with
your life story written in
it, and I ascertained from
the information therein that
you'd have a great deal of
trouble finishing your
dissertation. It wasn't
exactly rocket science
figuring that out, what with
your history of
procrastination and bouts of
hopelessness and depression.

But what would the sullen do
without grad school?

Well, I guess some of them
end up writing pointless
cartoons instead. But what
would the sullen grad student
do without this pointless
cartoon?

I guess some of them would
end up finishing their
dissertations.

Soldier on, son! Work out,
drink stronger coffee, and
vow to do more! These things
keep me from sinking into an
unproductive malaise on a
daily basis!

Still running against the
wind, pausing only to trip
other runners,

Polly
 
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Completing a five year double
major at two very different
universities, in two
unrelated fields, has brought
insight beyond mere
academics. I will abuse the
five star notation as much as
possible:

**** College women cannot
have sex. This is not to say
that it is mechanically or
emotionally impossible, just
that they suck at it.
Attribution:
self-consciousness.

*** Engineers cannot have
sex, but are superior to
those in the humanities, but
worse than those in the arts.
Attribution: social
predication.

** Drugs don't kill people!
People kill people. With bad
drugs. Attribution: greed.

* Kissing men is a whole lot
like kissing women
(especially when high as a
kite), with the possibility
of *stubble mesh* being
higher in the former than the
latter. Attribution:
testosterone.

** Gentrification sucks, but
its better than walking
through a pool of bloody
vomit upon which floats Lucky
Charms. I'd rather a
Starbucks employee clean it
up. Attribution: health.

**** Frat boys are indeed
rapists and alcoholics.
Sorority girls still want
them. Attribution: stupidity.

** Race issues among students
in the University of
California are approximately
nil compared to the rest of
the population in California.
Attribution: probably not
affirmative action.

*** Television is extremely
harmful to the nuclear family
as we once new it.
Attribution: zombification.

***** Polly Esther may have a
shitty life, but who the fuck
cares as long as she keeps
writing Filler. Attribution:
selfishness.

Love,

Brandon in berkeley

Thanks for the list, very
nice. One addition, and an
edit:

****College women don't like
sex. Attribution: College men
don't know what the fuck
they're doing.

And change the attribution on
"Kissing men" from
"Testosterone" to "The
undying allure of
bisexuality."

I think you should either try
harder, or try a new team.

Respectfully,

Polly
 
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Hi...

About a month ago, someone
wrote to you asking about
Joey's ever-growing nose. No
one was able to answer the
guy's question, but I have a
theory... (see attached gif)


Good Fillerversary Filler,
btw...

Humberto
<humberto@>puck.nether.net>

Very nice theory.

Conspiracy theories really do
make most otherwise dull
issues much more interesting!
Look how worked up Mel Gibson
got, for one.

Now I can't wait until 2003.

Polly
 
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Decline and Fall

"...detailing the fueling up
of the incendiaries, the
cranking back of the
catapults (For reasons not
entirely known, obsolete
technology is better than
modern technology at
demonstrating human
ingenuity)"

Because, as somebody observed
(Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac
Asimov?)(paraphrased), any
sufficiently advanced
technology is
indistinguishable from magic.

William W. Hunt
<whunt@gslis.utexas.edu>

That's really true, whoever
said it. In fact, the only
real problem with Gladiator
is that since digital imaging
lets them do anything they
want, you just assume
everything is a digital
effect. So no matter now what
amazing thing you see on
screen you just sit there
saying to yourself, "Big
deal! They're just doing that
Computer Thing." Which turns
out not always to be true.
When I read the production
notes, it turns out they
really made 10,000 costumes
and built enormous sets and
used live tigers and had a
zillion extras and fired a
shitload of flaming arrows
into the air at once, and so
on. (And by the way, when is
somebody going to do a parody
of these idiotic production
notes they hand out for
movies? No matter how much of
a piece of shit the movie is,
the production notes always
manage to make it sound like
it was a bigger deal than the
building of the
transcontinental railroad:
"In painstakingly
reconstructing the '70s heavy
metal milieu of Detroit Rock
City,
costume designer
Daphnë Zorobel-Cumley
went on a six-month search of
pawn shops, secondhand stores
and memorabilia fairs
throughout the United States
and Canada. 'Ace and Gene
were very precise about the
look they wanted,'
Zorobel-Cumley says.").

Anyway, we need to get back
to the days when movies
proudly announced how much
money you could expect to see
on the screen: "George
Peppard and Sophia Loren and
a cast of thousands in the
most magnificent epic ever
brought to the screen!"

Yr pal,

Bartel
 
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BarTel,

"A woman archer/charioteer in
gold breastplates clearly
owes more to American
Gladiators than to actual
gladiators."

You must've missed "Gladiator
Night" on the Discovery
channel (or was it TLC?). One
of their historian talking
heads said that female
gladiators, while very rare,
did exist. And, that they
fought with at least one
breast exposed. The movie's
already got an R rating, so,
really, they're showing some
restraint in having their
female gladiator with TWO
breast plates.

I plan on being first in line
to see this movie - Russell
Crowe in a toga! Yippeee!!!

Kara Catherwood
<kara@okstate.edu>

Well, I can't say my reading
in antique literature is
truly extensive, but I've
never come across a primary
source that mentioned any
women gladiators, certainly
none as accomplished as that
black lady who used to hand
all opponents their asses on
American Gladiators. I can't
remember her name, and the
only AG cast member who seems
to get any mention on the web
is Gemini (And what's up with
that? Gemini was great and
all, but shouldn't all the
American Gladiators get their
due?). In any event, I'm
skeptical about these
talking-head self promoters
on the Discovery Channel.
They're just trying to invent
new angles on these very
familiar topics. Call me
old-fashioned, but I'm
sticking to my position that
the arena is no place for a
lady!

Yr pal,

Bartel
 
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Fine piece - what was that
passage about the Romans and
plumbing, Oscar Wilde? I can
never remember Pasiphae's
name, but that's the way they
get bull sperm for artificial
insemination today, complete
with rubber cow. It's true,
that all the Roman empire
movie epics are to be summed
up by that tag of Horace's,
"change the name and the
story is about you." I
thought Gladiator was on the
long side, but certainly no
disappointment - very
similar, point by point, to
the plotting of the 1964 Fall
of the Roman Empire, the
thinking-man's epic. As for
female gladiators, they did
exist, but they were a
novelty - Juvenal reports
watching them sticking boars
in the arena topless, which
is something Fox Network will
be running about 2006, I bet.
For more of the "good stuff"
of the Roman games, check
Will Durant's Caesar and
Christ; the book has a long
passage describing
atrocities, perfect for
repeating at cocktail
parties.

Glad to see there's a
classics scholar among all
those Sucksters,

Richard von Busack
<regisgoat@earthlink.net>

Nobody is more opposed to
long running times than I am,
but Gladiator moved pretty
quickly, and hell's bells, if
you can't go over two hours
in a Roman epic, what's this
country coming to? It also
had an element of suspense,
which I had never seen at all
in any sandal picture, and
generally helped move the
time along, which is, in the
end, all we can ask of a
movie.

Juvenal was a great joker and
woman hater. I think you're
confusing his Satires with
the latest trends in
topless-woman pig-sticker
underground video. It's like
crush video, but twice as
hot.

The Roman toilet stuff is
from Ulysses.

Yr pal,

Bartel
 
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These days you guys write
long, rambling articles, just
so you get a chance to say
"Details is dead".

This coyness is very
confusing.

Death of any Conde Nasty is a
joyous occasion. When are you
going to tip that champagne
bottle on your dead homie's
grave?

shloo thululu
<slatbartifast@yahoo.com>

You got our number, all
right.

Yr pal,

Bartel
 
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"Nobody was seriously writing
Latin anymore when America
was built. Even our most
eye-moistening building
inscriptions ("Neither rain
nor snow nor heat nor gloom
of night stays these couriers
from the swift completion of
their appointed rounds") use
plain English to recall us to
our better, ancient selves."

eh?? what about e pluribus
unum?? great essay
still...how'd you get to see
the movie before everyone
else??

kK
<keen@ulster.net>

Before everybody else? I'm a
fully-accredited member of
the media, which makes me, by
definition, more important
than everybody else (Look it
up, it's true).

The hell with e pluribus
unum.
What about Roy
Orbison's "Ubi Dubi"?

Yr pal,

Bartel
 
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Hey Bar -

Suck is almost always good,
but rarely great. I just
wanted to drop you a line
saying how much I loved your
'Decline and Fall' piece.
Really first rate.

You need to pad out the
sections on the collapse of
classical studies and the bit
on how we use sword and
sandal epics as a funhouse
mirror and get this thing on
the cover of the Atlantic. If
you don't do it, you know
someone else will. But it
won't be as funny.

Here's a starter question:
dozens and dozens of movies
about Romans, but where o
where are our Greeks? (I'm
still waiting for the
Alcibiadies biopic starring
Wes Bentley with Carroll
O'Connor as Socrates).

Anyway, good luck, excelsior,
etcetera

Jeff
<ByronGato@aol.com>

Well, there's Richard Burton
as Alexander the Great;
there's La Guerra di Troia, and
Helen of Troy with Rossana
Podestà as the face
that launched a thousand
ships (and she is pretty
cute, but for my money
there's something really
pointless about a brown-eyed
blonde). Steve Martin's Death
of Socrates is a classic TV
moment. And let's not forget
Armand Assante as Odysseus,
and Anthony Quinn's Zeus in
Hercules: The Legendary
Journeys.
For that matter,
what about Anthony Quinn as
Zorba the Greek? And is Jason
and the Argonauts
chopped
liver?

But in general, you're right:
The Greeks are
under-represented in film.
Probably because they have a
weird alphabet, and very
little fascist appeal. And
they did too much talking and
not enough kicking ass. Then
again, Roman literature is
held in unfairly low regard.
So nobody gets any respect
when you come right down to
it. We won't, either, when
we're all gone. Sic transit
gloria mundi.


Yr pal,

Bartel
 
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Bartel,

Thanks VERY much for your
brief praise of Barry Lyndon.
I was beginning to think I
was the only person - let
alone cineaste - on the
planet who admires that film.
With that in mind,
doublethanks for the link.

Robert Anderson
<roba@cadence.com>

I think people psyche
themselves out of enjoying
Barry Lyndon. Maybe they're
not expecting a Kubrick movie
to be so heavy on plot and
exposition. But it's a movie
where Ryan O'Neal gets fucked
up in a thousand different
ways, and I consider that
pure cinematic gravy. And
that narrator is the cat's
pajamas.

Yr pal,

Bartel
 
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Krushchev Remembers, by Nikita Krushchev (authorship disputed), translated by Strobe Talbott
Five-Star Day Cafe
Athens, Ga.
Salon's "Action Figures"
TV ad
Donna's Famous "Long and Short of It," by Donna Anderson and friends
Two-Lane Blacktop, directed by Monte Hellman (The Anchor Bay/Universal letterboxed edition)
George Bush, Dark Prince of Love: A Presidential Romance, by Lydia Millet (Scribner)
King Kong: The Complete 1933 Film Score, by Max Steiner Moscow Symphony Orchestra, William J. Stromberg conductor (Marco Polo)
Eightball #20, by Dan Clowes (Fantagraphics Books)
The ECW's Little Spike Dudley
Stan Kenton, City of Glass, featuring arrangements by legendary weirdo Bob Graettinger (EMD/Blue Note)
Comix 2000, Edited and published by L'Association, 2000
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