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Filler

hi polly,

just want to say that your
articles have incredible
undeniably accurate insight
into my inner psyche. how do
you do it? somehow you make
people like myself feel very
small and insecure if not
psychologically paranoid.

sam lie
<sam_lie@hotmail.com>

Well, it's all a part of my
malevolent nature, I guess.
But there is a big picture,
Sam. Don't think for a second
that there aren't some
guiding principles behind
this machine. World
domination is impossible
without a significant dose of
smallness and insecurity, if
not outright paranoia,
spreading like a nasty head
cold among the teaming
masses.

Your inner psyche is really
crumbling, by the way. I'd
suggest an inner psychic
makeover. Either that or
consider building a bigger
wall between your conscious
mind and your innermost,
subconscious thoughts. That's
right: Denial is your friend.
You think the truth will set
you free? You're too weak for
the truth, Sam. As Jack said
to Larry Bird the other night
post-defeat: You want the
truth? You can't handle the
truth! Don't tear down the
wall - build the wall. Build
it! Think: the more
comfortably numb, the better.

Evil veteranarian,

Polly
 
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Having just been through a
"the magic is gone" type
breakup, the latest Filler
really spoke to me. As much
as people (seem to) complain
about Filler being
meaningless, I think you've
really captured the feeling
of our time. It *is* true
that people these days feel
like they have to stay single
through their 20s because
they have to meet that
perfect person, and it's also
sad that people seem to think
that a relationship is over
the minute they get the hots
for someone else.

I think you're right. There
is something very wrong with
all of us. We're one
fucked-up generation :)

Chris Druckenmiller
<cdrucken@DigitalRiver.com>

Hey, at least we can admit
that we're fucked up, right?
Or at least, it gives us some
perverse sort of relief from
our own unrealistically high
expectations of ourselves
that we admit what's wrong
with us, right? Wow, that's
really sad, that babbling
about how fucked up we are
makes us feel better. We
really are fucked up. It's
not funny, man! We're fucked!

Mmm. I feel so much better
now.

Anyway, screw "magic." You're
going out with someone and
you get a crush on someone
else? Stay with your current
flame, trust me. It's like
this character Crawford used
to say on these public
service announcements on TV
in North Carolina when I was
a kid: "Yew onleh wont the
toy becawse yew sow eeyut own
TayVay." We want that which
is just out of reach, but in
our faces, looking tasty and
smelling nice. Once you start
hanging out with the new
person, you start to realize
he/she's got a whole new
showcase showdown of lame
traits that are just as
annoying as the last one. New
boss, same as the old boss,
whatever. It pays to give the
person you're with a shot,
magic or no, before you sell
it all up the river for a toy
you only want because you saw
it on TV.

Unless the toy you have now
is just an utter piece of
shit, in which case, dump
away.

Boring the living crap out of
myself,

Polly
 
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Dear Polly,

I recognize so many of your
characters.

I grew a goatee and suddenly
everybody else was growing
them, too. I bought these
Converse high tops, and later
that day everybody had them
on. Are we herd animals, or
what? The funny thing is, I
always feel so special and
unique. It is always
surprising and comic to find
out I am plugged into the
same zeitgeist as everybody
else, following when I think
I'm leading. But then I
think: if something is no
longer cool once everybody's
doing it, then what is cool,
really?

If your theme was that
sincerity and emotional
honesty are underrated, then
I got it. Loyalty is somewhat
underbought these days, too,
I'd add.

One of the most subtle
Fillers lately, I enjoyed it
even more the second time I
read it. I recognized and
related to many of the
contrasts you drew, and the
dialogue between "you" and
Joey at the end tied it
together quite nicely.

Yours,

Trendy Without a Cause

Too bad I blew it all with
today's totally unsubtle load
of shit.

God I hate today's Filler. I
mean, the first cartoon,
fine. But the rest? Fucking
wankfest. Hate it.

It's so painful to write
something you don't like in
retrospect. Writing jokes
when you're high from too
much coffee is like tape
recording yourself when
you're drunk. The only thing
I can think of that must be
worse is being on the Real
World at age 20 and
blabbering about yourself to
a national audience before
you even know who you are or
what you want. MTV is
committing a pretty terrible
crime, if you think about it.

And I want to thank them for
making such a terrible
trainwreck of so many lives
for my idle amusement.

Not afraid to take a quick
look at myself and whine
loudly about what I see,

Polly
 
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The Friends of Eddie Murphy

Your article reminds me of a
thing Hilton Als wrote in the
New Yorker a while back,
wherein he claimed that Eddie
Murphy, Chris Rock , Martin
Lawrence and Eddie Griffin
(the buffoonish guy from
Malcolm and Eddie, yeah, I
forgot who he was, too) were
all knockoffs of Richard
Pryor. You and Hilton should
get together and fight.

Bye Bye,

Darin H.
Strret Fightin' Man
<Zoner39847@aol.com>

Darin, thanks for writing.
I'll fight anyone named
"Hilton" anytime, anywhere.
Except Lawrence
Hilton-Jacobs.

— 40SB (Tom Spurgeon)
 
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Sandy Hunter wrote:

Hey..cool piece on
Murphy-clones, but don't you
think Chris Tucker's work in
the Ice Cube weed flick
Friday was worthy of note?

sandy hunter
staff writer
'boards magazine
www.boardsmag.com
<shunter@brunico.com>

Hi, Sandy:

I liked Chris Tucker much
more in Friday — and the
other early film he did (Dead
Presidents?
) — than any
of the work that's followed.
Of course, it's the success
of that work that priced
Tucker right out of the
Friday sequel.

— 40SB
 
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Black,

Excellent - one of the most
engaging articles I've seen
at Suck in quite a while -
probably because I agree with
almost everything you said. A
few nitpicks:

* Dave Chappelle owes as much
to Cheech & Chong as he does
to Eddie Murphy.

* I think you missed the
point on both The Fifth
Element and Martin Lawrence's
comedy - sometimes it's not
about character, or plot, or
quality performances -
sometimes its about the glory
of pure, pressurized,
ultra-refined baroque
bullshit.

* While Bruce Lee clones are
not as cool as Bruce Lee
himself, the Eddie Murphy
clones named here are
generally funny as hell,
often funnier than Eddie
himself.

And didn't people used to say
that Eddie was a clone of
Richard Pryor? Why wasn't he
at the Richard Pryor award
ceremony? That schmuck Robin
Williams was. Someone should
get that dude back on coke.

Yrs,

Colin
<crankine@sensenet.com>

Thanks for writing, Colin.

I agree with you David
Chappelle has a wider variety
of influences — so does
Lawrence, for that matter.
Although I disagree that all
of the comedians and actors
mentioned in the article are
funny, I'll grant you any one
of them is funnier than Bruce
Li is compelling. But I think
it's too bad across the board
that they play those
Murphy-style roles. I really
haven't seen any of them
out-Murphy Murphy, in other
words.

Speaking of Bruce Li,
remember Jackie Chan went
through a period of being the
new Bruce Lee, too.
Regardless of your opinion of
Chan's comedy films, you have
to admit they're way better
than the Lee-style movies.

I'm glad you enjoyed the
piece.

— 40SB
 
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First of all, very well done.
I'm an avid suck reader and
have never taken the time to
write an author, but today's
essay got me thinking. I
agree with you almost 100%
but there is 1 thing I really
would have liked to see in
your essay, and if you have
time, what your opinion might
be... The fate of the 80's
contemporary, Murphy
sidekick, and I would say
failed clone: Arsenio Hall.
He played multiple roles
right along side Murphy in
"Coming to America" and
clearly with less skill. He
never quite made it to
feature film and his talk
show was made fun of in every
venue. How did this guy get
famous? But what's even more
interesting is his stint on
CBS as sidekick to Sammo
Hung. Now we've got clone of
a clone with the TV show
immitating Rush Hour,
imitating 48 Hours?

If you have a chance, I'd be
curious to hear...

Thanks,

Chris Robert
<cjay@ragingbull.com>

P.S. Why don't we see more
stuff from you? You got some
good insight...

Hi, Chris:

I didn't include Arsenio Hall
because he — and maybe
I'm blocking this out because
the memory is too painful
— didn't go on to carry
his own movies. If Coming to
America
were made right now,
the Hall role would likely be
played by Martin Lawrence,
I'm guessing. I agree with
your analysis of Hall's
performance.

You're also right that
Arsenio playing on Sammo
Hung's show makes him in some
ways a kind of clone of a
clone, which is truly
frightening. CBS didn't even
seem to hide the fact much
when casting Hall.
Although... from the only
episode of the show I've seen
Hall seemed less like a
Murphy-type partner than one
of those humilating sidekicks
on the Sam Raimi action
shows, there to give the star
someone to interact with
between fight scenes and look
less impressive than while
they're going on.

Incidentally, some feel that
Rush Hour was a lot like the
it-was-big-in-Russia movie I
describe in the essay,
Drive. Which would give
Arsenio two clone bloodlines.

Anyway, thanks for the kind
words and I hope to be
writing for Suck more often
in the near future.

— 40SB
 
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Angry, versatile,
foul-mouthed,
boundary-pushing black
performer with enough talent
to crossover to the
melanin-deficient mainstream,
made a big splash with his
concert work and went on to
movie blandness: Richard
Pryor. Angry, versatile,
foul-mouthed,
boundary-pushing black
performer with enough talent
to crossover to the
melanin-deficient mainstream,
made a big splash with his
concert work and went on to
movie success: Eddie Murphy.
As you said, "What separates
star cloning from such common
occurrences as young hopefuls
assuming an older actor's
outward ticks or public
persona mantle-passing is
intent." But to know that,
we'd have to peer into Lorne
Michaels' brain (eeeeeeeew!).
Murphy was clearly a Pryor
clone to begin with. The
reason that Murphy has the
influence to launch half a
dozen spores of his own is
that sadly, even before his
tragic illness, Pryor's story
didn't have a second act. I
could argue that Pryor was,
in turn, a Flip Wilson clone
but you can push this thing
only so far.

Pretty fly for a Canadian
guy,

Michael K
7lt;michael.k@iname.com>

I bet looking into the mind
of Lorne Michaels would be
like that one big scene in
Being John Malkovich where
Malkovich looks into his own
head, except that there'd be
a few Paul Simons and a
couple of Chevy Chases amidst
all the Lornes.

I think at most you can
define Murphy's early
popularity as a reflection of
Pryor — he's clearly the
biggest influence on his
stand-up, although I see a
lot of Redd Foxx (the way he
uses profanity) and Bill
Cosby (that Mom/shoe routine)
in the early Murphy material,
too. But Murphy always lacked
that sense of vulnerability
that made a lot of what Pryor
did in stand-up great, and
informed a lot of Pryor's
film work. It's weird, but I
think Murphy could have
played Bill Cosby's TV and
film roles more easily than
just about any of Pryor's.

Thanks, Michael.

— 40SB
 
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Yngwie Malmsteen: now there's
a name I haven't heard since
high school. I guess he got
surgery for his carpel
tunnel, as he's obviously
still playing violin, er,
guitar. Who else would think
of taking spirited, lyrical
riffs from Paginini and
putting them in the somber,
heavy-metal version of
Wagnerian opera?

Rob Peneguy
<peneguy@tryc4.com>

It's a brave artist who mixes
and matches with that kind of
daring.

I don't think the world's
quite ready to come to terms
with the massive debt all
arts owe Malmsteen.

Thanks,

— 40SB
 
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Your work is a treasure. This
is your best since that tax
revolt piece. Have you
considered a collection of
essays ,a la George Will or
WFB? I'd buy ten! Thanks for
doing that voodoo, that you
do, sooooo well.

Steven P. Sanabria
<diegodeigh@pikeonline.net>

Steven:

I'm not as interested in
doing their kind of essay
books as I am in writing
gimme essays on baseball and
smoking pot on a sailboat.
Thanks for the encouragement.

— 40SB (Tom Spurgeon)
 
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Krushchev Remembers, by Nikita Krushchev (authorship disputed), translated by Strobe Talbott
Five-Star Day Cafe
Athens, Ga.
Salon's "Action Figures"
TV ad
Donna's Famous "Long and Short of It," by Donna Anderson and friends
Two-Lane Blacktop, directed by Monte Hellman (The Anchor Bay/Universal letterboxed edition)
George Bush, Dark Prince of Love: A Presidential Romance, by Lydia Millet (Scribner)
King Kong: The Complete 1933 Film Score, by Max Steiner Moscow Symphony Orchestra, William J. Stromberg conductor (Marco Polo)
Eightball #20, by Dan Clowes (Fantagraphics Books)
The ECW's Little Spike Dudley
Stan Kenton, City of Glass, featuring arrangements by legendary weirdo Bob Graettinger (EMD/Blue Note)
Comix 2000, Edited and published by L'Association, 2000
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