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for 23 August 2000. Updated every WEEKDAY.
 
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Filler: Third World Blind

Polly:

Am I the only one a bit disturbed
by the fish's choice of lunchtime
fare?

A concerned reader

I, too, am concerned with the
Fish's fish lunch. Maybe the
blackened tadpole was on special,
and it sounded simply irresistible.
Or maybe Terry is slightly
unhinged. Through history, though,
the unhinged bring us the world's
greatest art, so we probably
shouldn't complain.

Polly
 
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so I guess a blind hog DOES find an
acorn every once in a while!

It is good to see that you can be
funny every once in a while.

remember - being narcissictic about
oneself - not funny misspelling
narcissictic while criticizing
another - funny live and lurn

pete

Well, you can lead a blind hog to
acorns, but you can't make him eat
them. Hogs hate acorns.

And I have to disagree - is funny
misspelling narcissictic while
criticizing another!

You lurn something new every day!

Polly
 
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Hey, longtimereader,
firsttimewriter. Your Generation Ex
bit was hilarious. A few months
back I got an e-mail from an
ex-girlfriend Angie who wanted some
advise about her current boyfriend,
Beau (natch), who was still
interested in his ex-gf Denise, who
was also an ex-gf of mine. Here's a
snippet from the letter I sent back
to Ang.

I read your story, but I can hardly
fathom it. So let me get this
straight: Your current boyfriend is
my ex's ex, and you, being his
girlfriend, are his ex's ex's ex,
making Denise both my ex and your
ex's ex? This makes me your ex, her
ex, his current's ex and his ex's
ex. I've never gotten so much ex in
all my life. It's the best ex I've
ever had. It's better than ex.

And to top it all off, Denise was
then seeing .....drumroll
please....former MTV VJ Alan
Hunter. I laughed myself silly when
I heard that.

Anyoldhow, keep up the killa filla.
Peacepipes.

Bruce

Man, that means you're practically
related to Alan Hunter! Very cool!

Polly
 
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Just to let you know, Filler is
awesome. I've been reading it for a
while but never felt the urge to
comment.

However, I think the real reason we
don't like friends and ex's to get
together is that they'll share and
reveal some secret horrible truth
about you that could only be
gleaned from close intimate contact
by two people that know you too
well. Then the world will know that
the facade you present is only
that, a facade. Then you'll have to
invent a new facade. And that's so
hard and painful to do more than
once.

Chris

Chris, I invent new facades as
often as I change my socks.

And, changing facades is like
changing socks, in that, often is
often not often enough.

It reminds me of an AA idea that
someone once shared with me:
uncovering layers of emotional
damage and dysfunction can be like
peeling off the layers of an onion
- every time you peel off one
layer, there's another layer
underneath. I can't think of any
metaphor that could make you crave
a drink more than that one does.

Cool, soothing beer...

Polly
 
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Whee! The People

Are you going by 40th street black
now? I'll have to go back into the
archives and compare stuff. Reminds
me of techno DJs who find they have
to change names when they switch
genres (from jungle to deep house
or bigbeat, for example).

I'm just writing to say that that
was great (Whee!The people) for
reasons I'm only guessing at right
now and it has lots of interesting
implications for the town I'm
living in, Prague, but in the
opposite direction. Given the
hordes of Americans that stomp
through, maybe you've been here.
It's one of the only towns really
unscathed by WWII, and it was one
of Europe's gems to start with. I
worked at a paper a few years ago
here which once ran a picture of a
double-steepled cathedral on the
main square that made the steeples
look like mickey mouse ears. The
point being that the effect of
Disneyland is to make it difficult
to take something as beautiful and
old as Prague seriously. "It almost
looks like the real thing," people
joke.

Prague as theme park vs. Prague as
financial center is a serious issue
for planning folks here as modern
methods of using office space tend
to clash with those from, say, the
16th century. For the city to
thrive, both of those worlds have
to be coddled to and zoned for.
Downtown Prague today is a mix of
sunglassed, screaming Italians,
Czechs dressed up in Mozart outfits
handing out concert invitations,
chubby Americans in Jams and
college t-shirts, and suits talking
into their mobile phones in any
language as they sprint across the
old square. If Disney were to build
a park somewhere on the outskirts
of town, out by the industrial and
business parks already growing
there, I think Prague would have a
schizophrenic meltdown.

Great stuff.

(Any articles or book suggestions
that pertain would be appreciated.)

Robert McLean
<mcleanr@ini.cz>

Thanks for reading and sending a
note. My e-mail was briefly
switched with St. Huck's. Taking my
own look through his archives, I
wish I were him instead of me
full-time.

Thanks for the interesting take at
Prague, which I'm guessing is
nothing like Youngstown, Ohio but
sounds equally terrifying. If
Disney doesn't end up building
there, perhaps the closest things
to Mickey Mouse (squeaky voice,
inexplicable world icon status,
eerie and unsettling late-life
makeover), Mr. Michael Jackson,
will make good on his promise of a
Neverland (Really) East.

Best,

40th Street Black
 
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Second time writing to you. Thanks
for your response to the last.

Theme parks! Deep thoughts about
trivial pursuits, eh? Yet, this at
a time when I'm actually agonizing
about whether or not to attempt an
unbudgetable trip to Kennnywood PA
before they close for the winter
and tear down the infamous Steel
Phantom. In this case, nostalgia
over the impending loss of
something I've never seen is
motivating me to consider going
somewhere I'd never be motivated to
otherwise go--I'd never imagine
making a trip just to ride a
rollercoaster unless I knew it was
about to be torn down. Is that
effective marketing or what?
They'll probably make up, in
last-minute Phantom-mourning
attendance, what it costs them to
tear it down and build a new ride.
Also compelling, since I live in
topical Orlando, are your thoughts
on Downtowns and Park Culture; here
we have lost our downtown, as a
once-vital entertainment venue, to
the ersatz mini-metropoli of
Downtown Disney and Universal
CityWalk.In this case, amusement
parks are posing as places of
business, rather than vice-versa,
but then again, that's what they
really are anyway, right? Still,
it's sad for us, since Downtown
Orlando used to be really hopping
every night; now, if we want
nightlife, we have to go hang with
the tourists, rather than them
getting to come hang with us. In
any case, it's still a matter of
the better-presented rides
overshadowing the sideshow. I enjoy
your writing.

Stuart Nichols
<snichols@rollins.edu>

Thanks so much for writing. I was
interested in hearing from someone
who lived in Orlando. I watched
some footage of basketball player
Grant Hill making his trip to
Orlando to decide whether to play
for the Magic - because the lives
of multi-millionaires are more
important than my own - and I was
struck by the fact that what they
were selling as Orlando seemed to
have nothing to do with any sense
of the city, where I seem to
remember at one point there being a
clear distinction made by civic
leaders.

I hope you get to ride the Steel
Phantom. I'm all for manufacturing
nostalgia that whips you around a
steel track as opposed to sitting
there staring at you over half a
vodka-tonic.

40th Street Black
 
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Dear 40th St. Black, excellent
article on a fascinating subject.
Years ago the journal Glyph - which
I am sure has long ago vanished
from sight - published an article
by Louis Marin entitled
"Disneyland: A Degenerate Utopia."
The title says it all. Marin was a
bright guy but his point of view is
that of a snooty educated European
revolted by the horrors of American
commercialism. But if Max
Horkheimer and Theodor Adorno could
praise France - in 1947, when they
wrote Dialectic of Enlightenment -
for its whorehouses and pissoirs, I
certainly don't feel apologetic
about Disneyland or its assorted
congeners.When I was in graduate
school years ago, I lived next door
to Belmont Park in Mission Beach
here in San Diego. It had a great
creaky old roller coaster - which I
once rode on to sober up on a
Sunday morning - and during the
summer months, when the park stayed
open until eleven at night, the
entrance was littered with the
puked remains of cotton candy. But
my only memories of Belmont Park
are fond ones. I'm happy to have
had a chance to observe first-hand
the gutsy pleasures of an
institution like that - in contrast
to the more pasteurized ones of
Disneyland - just as I'm happy to
have had a chance to see live
burlesque when I was in my teens.
There's a wonderful painting by
Paul Cadmus of the Coney Island
beach in the 1930's that really
manages to get the raunchy
unstructured spectacle of Americans
at play on canvas - like a great
shot out of an early sound film.

Best wishes,

Dave Clayton
<daveclayton@worldnet.att.net>

Hi Dave.

Thanks so much for you note. I
found a photo of the Cadmus
painting —
http://www.photo.net/
photo/pcd0222/cadmus-
coney-island-58 — if anyone is
interested. It's extremely vivid.

My Belmont Park was
"Adventureland," in North Webster,
Indiana, home of the "Wild Mouse"
roller coaster, the amusement
equivalent of trying to drive your
totaled car away from an accident
because you told the officer you
could. Nothing was more terrifying
than the lean on that first curve.

I sure hope we're never expected to
apologize for Disney; the
straight-to-video stuff would take
up six months of free time all by
itself.

Best,

40th Street Black
 
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Five-Star Day Cafe
Athens, Ga.
Salon's "Action Figures"
TV ad
Donna's Famous "Long and Short of It," by Donna Anderson and friends
Two-Lane Blacktop, directed by Monte Hellman (The Anchor Bay/Universal letterboxed edition)
George Bush, Dark Prince of Love: A Presidential Romance, by Lydia Millet (Scribner)
King Kong: The Complete 1933 Film Score, by Max Steiner Moscow Symphony Orchestra, William J. Stromberg conductor (Marco Polo)
Eightball #20, by Dan Clowes (Fantagraphics Books)
The ECW's Little Spike Dudley
Stan Kenton, City of Glass, featuring arrangements by legendary weirdo Bob Graettinger (EMD/Blue Note)
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