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for 12 November 1999. Updated every WEEKDAY.
 
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Emily Ghost's Halloween
Etiquette


Oh my God, I am going to
faint from laughter. Then I
am going to email this to all
my friends. I hope you are
prepared for an onslaught
d'subs.

As I wished my fiend, I mean
friend, who wears spooky
contacts to work every
Halloween Friday,

Vitreous humor,

Joanne
<yarnspinner@duesouth.net>

PS The suggested Edgar Allen
Poe reply from you would
read, "Eye knew you would say
that."

Mmm. A punster, huh?

Nothing we like better than
witty puns from the lips of a
true pun-spinner.

Except mold and drafty
bathrooms and leg cramps that
wake you up in the middle of
the night, howling in pain.

the Sucksters
 
Fish With Letter Icon
 


Sucksters,

Did you actually write
this?!?

"Well, you'll see in time
that at Suck.com we have a
strong commitment to putting
out a quality product, day in
and day out. We take all our
feedback from our customers
to heart, so if you have any
suggestions, feel free to let
us know. —

the Sucksters"

Someone must have let in
fresh air from outside. Stop
that! Quit it right now!

Thank you. :)

Jeepy

"Few things are harder to put
up with than a good example."
—Mark Twain
(1835�)

"Stop that!"? Is that a
suggestion? A bit of customer
feedback? Do you really think
we meant it?

Please read the good example
in the letter above.

Few things are harder to put
up with than a gullible
emoticon.

the Sucksters
 
Fish With Letter Icon
 


Writing this letter stems
from a desperation to be
heard, if not by a court of
law, then by a court of
public opinion. Although not
without overlap and
simplification, I plan to
identify three primary
positions on Suck.com's
expositions. I acknowledge I
have not accounted for all
possible viewpoints within
the parameters of these three
positions. Nevertheless, I,
not being one of the many
incomprehensible obstinate
prevaricators of this world,
challenge Suck to point out
any text in this letter that
proposes it has been robbed
of all it does not possess.
It isn't there. There's
neither a hint nor a
suggestion of such a thing.
Certainly, any day now, Suck
will turn its back on those
who need it the most.

Strictly speaking, I am
appalled that I have cause to
write this article. I have
this advice to offer: The
world has changed, Suck; get
used to it. Suck's double
standards are despised by
everyone but craven
desperados. One doesn't need
a finely developed sense of
irony to note that Suck's
vituperations are a pitiful
jumble of incoherent
nonsense. Even though
supposedly distancing itself
from unprincipled
cheapskates, Suck has really
not changed its spots at all.
What does Suck have to say
about all of this? The
answer, as expected, is
nothing.

Suck's cronies must be
exposed and neutralized
wherever they lurk, as if it
made any difference. Suck's
fierce passions and fiendish
cunnin; combined with
abnormal powers of intellect,
intense vitality, and
a persistency of purpose
the world has rarely seen;
and whetted moreover by a
keen thirst for blood
engendered by defeat and
subjection, combine to make
it the deadly enemy of all
mankind, while its
condescending arguments
contribute to inflame its
wild lust of pelf and to
justify the crimes suggested
by spite and superstition. It
is singularly apt that it is
of paramount importance not
to let Suck's lackeys burn
our fair cities to the
ground. It may seem senseless
to say that Suck's henchmen
get so hypnotized by its
simplistic "good guys and bad
guys" approach to history
that they do not hear what it
is really saying.
Nevertheless, the position
can be defended. The
essential point, however, is
the following: Some of Suck's
atrabilious goals are so
self-contradictory they're
their own refutation.

Following this line of logic,
it would appear that it's
never too late to listen to
others. Suck simply
regurgitates the empty
arguments that have been fed
to it over the years. Suck is
mischievous, slaphappy,
silly, virulent, pernicious,
and nerdy. Need I go on? Once
we have absorbed and
understood Suck's scornful
press releases, it is our
inescapable responsibility to
do whatever is necessary to
enable patriots to use their
freedoms to save their
freedoms. Well, sure; in
plain language, I, for one,
am skeptical of Suck's
efforts to produce a
predatory definition of
"counterdemonstration," but
that doesn't change reality.
If Suck wants to utilize
questionable and illegal
fundraising techniques, fine.
Just don't make me faint
while it's at it.

I, for one, can repeat with
undiminished conviction
something I said eons ago:
Suck flaunts its personal
catch phrases and attitudes
in front of everyone else. I
wish that some of Suck's
assistants would ask
themselves, "Why am I helping
Suck sentence more and more
people to poverty, prison,
and early death?" We must
burn away social illness,
exploitation, and human
suffering. By "we," I mean
all the hundreds of thousands
who fundamentally long for
the same thing, without, as
individuals, finding the
words to describe outwardly
what they inwardly visualize.
Efforts to change this
country's moral
infrastructure are not
vestiges of a former era.
They are the beginnings of a
phenomenon which, if
permitted to expand
unchecked, will cause (or at
least contribute to) a
variety of social ills. An
ancient Greek once wrote
something to the effect of,
"Anyone willing to study and
ponder my position on most
current matters will
decisively find that it is a
master of psychological
manipulation." Today, the
same dictum applies, just as
clearly as when it was first
written more than 2,000 years ago.
I could be wrong about any or
all of this, but at the
moment, the above fits what I
know of history, people, and
current conditions. If anyone
sees anything wrong or has
some new facts or theories on
this, I'd love to hear about
them.

Dr. Tongue Is-on-Duty
<christew2@hotmail.com>

Is this what you call finding
the words to describe
outwardly what you inwardly
visualize?

Keep trying.

the Sucksters
 
Fish With Letter Icon
 


I'm Spinning Out

Subject: You spun me out
Sucksters.

G'day from Down Under (I say
that because I live in Sydney
and want to meet your
stereotypical expectations of
what Aussies are like, but no
one
in Australia would
actually greet you like
that).

I am a 21-year-old Iranian
who migrated to Australia
with my parents at the age of
seven during the bloody match
of Iran vs. Iraq.

I bumped into your site via a
friend who thought it was
very funny. I have to totally
agree, but one very massive
element of your site struck
me as strange.

We, living in Sydney, see
Yanks as either loudmouthed,
belief (Bible) bashing,
patriots (because of
Hollywood), or extremist,
Christian terrorists (because
of the news), but you guys
don't seem to fit into either
of these categories. Not only
do you seem to criticize your
motherland to no end and
think freely from the pledge
of allegiance that seems to
brainwash most US kids, but
you do it with sarcasm and
great illustrations.

I have to say I love your
articles and I agree with a
lot of what you have to say.
The underlying fact is the
United States is not the
center of the world and that
history did not start after
1492.

Your site gives me (and I am
sure most others not living
in the United States) great
insight into the other side
of the coin — the fact
that no matter what
delusional propaganda the
US government tries
to push overseas of a united,
God-fearing, patriotic, and
rich United States, the truth
is you're like the rest of
us and do actually have
people (and more importantly,
writers) who do actually
express what they think about
the stupid hypocrisy around
them.

I thoroughly look forward to
reading your site in the
future.

Thanks,

Saman Jebeli-Javan
<dr.yen@ tokyo-3.com>

Yeah, isn't it weird how
there are people in every
country who don't fit the
worst possible stereotypes
you have of the citizens of
that country?

Really boggles the mind, huh?

Now we really must run —
time to eat bean dip and beat
the shit out of our kids with
the butt of our rifles,

the Sucksters
 
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You're getting some
remarkably good responses to
your article. Partly this
suggests you've hit a nerve;
partly it suggests you wrote
well enough to encourage
others to write well. Either
way, it's a compliment.
Congratulations.

However, I've been wondering
if you can really establish a
genre of "shamesploitation,"
or if it is simply a critique
of a work you don't like.
Compare, if you will, Your
Friends and Neighbors
with
The Sweet Hereafter. The
former leaves you feeling
dirty; the latter, you leave
the theater feeling as if you've
just come out of a frozen
lake. One is nasty bathos;
the other offers the
redemption of true tragedy.
(It also gives Atom a free
pass, as far as I'm
concerned, for the rest of
his life; like any film by
Rohmer, I'll now go to
anything his name is on.)
Still, when you try to
dissect them, are not the
pieces pretty much the same
— people behaving badly;
some trying to do better,
others not; pain; "we are
born astride the grave." Yada
yada. The difference is
partly skill, partly caring.
Consider the recent Dreamlife
of Angels,
which, incredibly,
played briefly here and there
and never had any marketing
dollars behind it. It should
be a shamesploitation movie;
in many ways — looked at
mechanically — that's
just what it is. But the
director's obvious caring for
his characters gave its
somewhat sour viewpoint a
transcendent humanity. Or
consider Mike Leigh's films:
unpleasant people, unpleasant
deeds (especially his earlier
work and his stage work). But
Mike cares about his people.
It's not shamesploitation;
it's drama.

If the difference between
tragedy and shamesploitation
lies in a director's skill,
you don't have a genre —
you have a nice, nasty word
to criticize bad drama. Now,
if a director deliberately
sets out to make a movie that
says nothing more than
life sucks and so do you,
with no further motive or
subtext, sure — that's a
genre. But does any such film
ever get made that
deliberately? I don't think
so, at least not by anyone
who's taking his meds in the
morning. And it's not financed by
anyone who's taking his meds.

See, you got me thinking.
That was a fine piece you
wrote.

Alan Kornheiser
<ASKornheiser@prodigy.net>

I didn't see Your Fs and Ns,
but for some reason, I suspect
it may be underrated. In any
case, I should catch up with
it, if only to watch Jason
Patric try to prove what an
acting genius he is.

I'm not the biggest fan of
Egoyan. Even though his films
are unique and intelligent,
they just don't do it for me
for some reason. He's the
Bergman of the '90s in some
ways, with all the good and
bad that that implies. I like
parts of his films, but
rarely the whole. His films
don't jump, as I find, for
instance, Eric Rohmer's do.
(Since you brought him up.)
Egoyan is incredibly
novelistic, an increasing
problem in serious movies
today, even though most
people think it's the other
way around and serious novels
are too cinematic. I think
serious novels are too
novelistic too.

But what Fs and Ns and The Sweet
Hereafter
have in common, I
suspect, is that they are not
shamesploitation because both
have a strong presence with
an original view behind them.
So also with Leigh. This is
not true thus far of
shamesploitation. You're
right to say that
"shamesploitation" may be a
name for a bunch of films
with similar thematic
interests and settings that
all happen to, well, suck,
but film noir is not really a
genre either. Since it's
unlikely the category I've
come up with will ever have
the cachet of film noir, I'm
not overly worried about
having given the world a
critical bastard.

Slotcar Heathbar
 
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 The Shit
Seeing Calvin Coolidge in a Dream, John Derbyshire, St. Martin's Press, 1996
Peekaboo's Masks, 2492 Van Ness Avenue, San Francisco
West Beirut, director Ziad Doueiri, 1999
"The Smartest Cartoonist on Earth," Daniel K. Raeburn, The Imp, Vol. 1/No. 3, 1999
Mad Monster Party, Rankin/Bass Productions, VHS, Deluxo & Black Bear Press, 1967/1999
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neill, America's Best Comics, 1999
Hermenaut No. 15: "The Fake Authenticity Issue," editor Joshua Glenn, summer 1999
Guillow's Sky Streak rubber-powered balsa-wood glider (without landing gear)
Webvan
Very Emergency, Promise Ring, Jade Tree, 1999
Mean Magazine No. 5, summer 1999
Slickaphonics, Replikants, KillRockStars/Rue St. Germaine, 1999
"Cash, Interesting, Summer Holiday", The Young Ones, Foxvideo (BBC Video), 1988
Driver (PSX), GT Interactive, 1999

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